Craig Oldfield wrote:
In article .com,
says...
To Craig

You may be right about what I post here

I am right about what you post. Poor old Gerald, the only one marching
in step, everybody else is wrong. Face it fruitcake, you're a brick
short of a full load. This is my last contact with you. As the saying
goes, you can try to teach a pig to dance but you only waste your time
and annoy the pig, so go back to your trough and wallow some more in
your own self-pity.

--
Craig Oldfield

The intellectual vandalism visited on the Copernican heliocentric
insight and its later refinements by Kepler and Roemer most certainly
evokes the lament that most of humanity dies without getting to
appreciate what they see as they look out on the planets.Presently,as
the Earth in its orbital motion is overtaking the slower moving
Mars,the planet appears to move backwards against the stellar
background but it is really the orbital motion of the Earth in its
heliocentric orbit generating the effect.

Clocks are easy to understand from the other independent motion of the
Earth and why they keep pace at 15 degrees per hour and 24 hours/360
degrees.There is no external reference for constant axial rotation yet
you people justify a location's rotation to the Sun in 24 hours exactly
even though it is known since antiquity that no such equable motion
occurs.Hence the neccessity of the Equation of Time correction.

Even when it is pointed out to you that a star returns to the same
position in 23 hours 56 min 04 sec of a 24 hour day and this is fine as
long as you do NOT attempt to justify it astronomically,you freaks do
and for that Newtonian agenda that keeps the stellar background in
heliocentricity -

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

Anyone who recognises how retrogrades are resolved by substituting the
stellar background with the annual orbital motion of the Earth would be
sickened by that dumb Newtonian quasi-geocentric attempt,obviously
people still need to become familiar with the exquisite reasoning of
Copernicus.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~jh8h/.../marsretro.gif

Unfortunately few people can discern that it is the Earth overtaking
the slower orbital motion and outer orbital path of Mars and this is
a shame for it is not at all difficult.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

People who see Mars rising and setting on the horizon are most
certainly cataloguers,great if you like photography and love your
telescope but far removed from real astronomy and the exquisite
Keplerian refinement .