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Old October 11th 05, 02:21 PM
Bill Sheppard
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From Painius:

You see, while light traveling through
space outside the gravity well of the Sun
must be traveling faster than light near to the Sun, the light outside

the gravity well is still traveling at speeds significantly
lower than c.


Too bad the NG has been all but destroyed and rendered useless by the
current blizzard of OT trash.

But regarding your above statement, you did not clarify _from what
referance frame_ the speed of light is being observed. The same is true
of the cited paper by Marmet and Couture,
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/ECLIPSE/Eclipse.htm
This paper and its attendant math is predicated on the
space-as-void or 'No Medium' premise. It makes no provision for
_pressure/density gradients_ in the spatial medium, and does not
recognize such gradients as being responsible for variances in the speed
of light (same is true of the VSL {variable speed of light} models by
Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, Troitskii et al).
Variations in the speed of light are always _as seen
from the external frame_. The observer, mentally transposed 'outside' of
space, sees the variation across any density/pressure gradient in the
medium. Meanwhile, here 'inside' of space, the Earthbound observer sees
the _artifacts_ of the variation, and tries to interpret them and "math"
them based on void-space (as in the Pioneer spacecraft acceleration
anomaly).
Relativity itself is rooted 'inside' of space.
Transposing 'outside' of space is the natural extension/expansion of
relativity. For example, where Marmet-Couture see c as dropping to zero
at a BH's event horizon, the 'outside' observer sees _space itself_
accelerating to c at the event horizon.. and an inbound photon hitting
the EH at 2c(!). An outbound photon, trying to 'climb out' of the BH's
gravity well, would have zero velocity at the EH.
In more familiar settings here in our Sun's gravity
well, what is actually going on as seen from 'outside'? Well,
pressure/density _decrease_ the closer you get to the Sun, as the
velocity of flow into the Sun increases (think venturi). Out in deep
space, farthest from any gravitating mass, pressure/density is
_highest_. And the speed of light is highest there.
As pressure/density decrease in a gravity well, the speed
of light within it decreases proportionately. Yet to the observer
'inside' the gravity well, c is always constant *locally*. C is always
186,282 mps here, locally, just as it is always 186,282 mps out in deep
space, locally. And relativity is never violated, locally. The prime
variable from location to location is the pressure/density of the
spatial medium.. the most prominent example being the _cosmological
density gradient_, not yet recognized in deep-field observations.
Just as SR sees c constant in all inertial frames, the
expanded model sees it constant in all _density frames_ to the 'inside'
observer. The 'outside' observer sees lightspeed vary across any density
gradient (Wolter's 'c-dilation'). This is the natural extension of SR;
all that's needed is to replace the "Void" with the hyperpressurized,
fluid spatial medium.. and to correctly interpret the artifacts we
observe 'inside' of space.

This means that this light, the light from
stars and galaxies, takes quite a bit
*longer* to reach us than previously
thought. Therefore, the objects emitting
this light are a whole lot closer (some of
them "reachable" perhaps in the near
future?) than we thought!
Ref:
"Consequently, equation 7 shows that,
everywhere in space, light is transmitted
at a velocity slower than the accepted
definition of the velocity of light known
on Earth."


Stop a moment to think this through from the standpoint of the 'outside'
observer. Remember too that the _volume_ of space increases with
diminishing density/pressure, and that space (and everything in it)
stretches axially in the direction of flow.. as seen from 'outside'. And
now interpret the artifacts of all this we see here 'inside'.g

Clearly, the view is vastly different from that of the old physics based
on void-space.

Note: the term "pressure/density" is more concisely rendered
"pressure/density/Temp" or PDT, since the 'Temperature' of the medium is
the function of its pressure/density (with unwitting credit to OG).

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