On 18 Dec 2003 00:36:29 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Jorge R.
Frank" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

(Rand Simberg) wrote in
:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:34:25 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Jon G"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

I remember reading somewhere that one of the test-pilots reported the ATV
was a nightmare to fly.

Yes, perhaps the same test pilot that broke the sound barrier today in
SpaceShipOne. Or it may have been Marti--I forget which.

I believe it was Marti, in an article in Air & Space.

Well, it's worth pointing out that based on all contemporary attempts,
the Wright's first plane was a nightmare to fly as well. Or at least
replicas of it are.