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More information about the research is available online
at
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113 or
http://funphysics.jpl.nasa.gov/physics/index.html .

The research was conducted under NASA's Astronomy and
Physics
Research and Analysis program, part of the agency's
Science
Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. JPL, is a division
of
the
California Institute of Technology, Pasadena.

-end-

xxein: Bssically says nothing at all except that they want
more
money
to confirm the confirmed with more ($) accuracy.

This is where we are not supposed to believe the intricate
math
of
the best theories of man's mind that go beyond the accuracy
of
the
proposed new experiments that they want more money for.

Gimme a break!

A break is not what you need.
A brain is what you need.

Dirk Vdm


xxein: Yah, let's send an intergalactic probe to prove
1+1=============2.

You can't expect G to change in decayears when we have hardly a
hint
that it MIGHT change in billions of years with universal
expansion.

So, ok, we can express some doubt in our theories. Where are
you
in
this? Do you allow the thought that some 'ether' theory may be
correct
or do you say that we have proven to finality that 'ether'
cannot
exist?

If the latter, then you have proven my point. If the former,
then
you
cannot profess anything except a belief with no completeness of
physical understanding.

It's your choice. Make it.

I think we will never reach completeness of physical
understanding.
I also think that, even in (the possibly hypothetical) case an
'ether'
would stubbornly continue to have exactly all the right
properties
to remain undetected (or by definition perhaps even
undetectable),
there will always be people who cannot live without it. In short,
I
think that religion and belief in the supernatural will never die
out.
But I could be wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.

Dirk Vdm

xxein: C'mon, you are being a hypocrite again. What is this
bullcrap?
You are insinuating that an ether is a belief different than the
belief that light passes you at exactly c?

They are in the same boat,
in the same sea, eating the same rations.

You are doing exactly the same as the creationist calling
main stream biologists "evolutionists with just another belief."


Do us a favor and measure the one-way speed of light so that we all
may
quit the belief aspect of it and allow it to be physically true.

Btw, I was writing a post that did not take umbrage. It was lost.
In
the meantime I changed my feeling of belief in what you are. I now
take clear umbrage. You, apparently, cannot separate physics from
belief.

I think we will never reach completeness of physical understanding.
I also think that, even in (the possibly hypothetical) case an
'ether'
would stubbornly continue to have exactly all the right properties
to remain undetected (or by definition perhaps even undetectable),
there will always be people who cannot live without it. In short, I
think that religion and belief in the supernatural will never die
out.
But I could be wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.

In your case I'm obviously right.
You are a typical creationist.

Dirk Vdm

xxein: When you are so wrong about me being a creationist, how can I
or anybody else have any credence in whatever you write/post?

Let's put it this way. I am right because you let your "belief"
dictate, not only physics, but the way you judge all people. Snip-snap
he/she is what you immediately think they are. No additional thinking
required.

Your credibility is zero. You are nothing but a classroom snitch
trying to gain points with your teacher (from whom you will never learn
anything).

Creationist? That is so antithetical to my thinking. Do you ever read
my posts that are not threaded to you?

And to climax it all, who would create a goof site if they didn't have
such a strong belief? Even your underware fails to hide you. Freud
has you nailed.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing (especially when combined with
impertinent belief).

Go preach on alt.dvm.phys.