Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
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Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
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More information about the research is available online at
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113 or
http://funphysics.jpl.nasa.gov/physics/index.html .

The research was conducted under NASA's Astronomy and Physics
Research and Analysis program, part of the agency's Science
Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. JPL, is a division of
the
California Institute of Technology, Pasadena.

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xxein: Bssically says nothing at all except that they want
more
money
to confirm the confirmed with more ($) accuracy.

This is where we are not supposed to believe the intricate math
of
the best theories of man's mind that go beyond the accuracy of
the
proposed new experiments that they want more money for.

Gimme a break!

A break is not what you need.
A brain is what you need.

Dirk Vdm


xxein: Yah, let's send an intergalactic probe to prove
1+1=============2.

You can't expect G to change in decayears when we have hardly a
hint
that it MIGHT change in billions of years with universal expansion.

So, ok, we can express some doubt in our theories. Where are you
in
this? Do you allow the thought that some 'ether' theory may be
correct
or do you say that we have proven to finality that 'ether' cannot
exist?

If the latter, then you have proven my point. If the former, then
you
cannot profess anything except a belief with no completeness of
physical understanding.

It's your choice. Make it.

I think we will never reach completeness of physical understanding.
I also think that, even in (the possibly hypothetical) case an
'ether'
would stubbornly continue to have exactly all the right properties
to remain undetected (or by definition perhaps even undetectable),
there will always be people who cannot live without it. In short, I
think that religion and belief in the supernatural will never die
out.
But I could be wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.

Dirk Vdm

xxein: C'mon, you are being a hypocrite again. What is this bullcrap?
You are insinuating that an ether is a belief different than the
belief that light passes you at exactly c? They are in the same boat,
in the same sea, eating the same rations.

Do us a favor and measure the one-way speed of light so that we all may
quit the belief aspect of it and allow it to be physically true.

Btw, I was writing a post that did not take umbrage. It was lost. In
the meantime I changed my feeling of belief in what you are. I now
take clear umbrage. You, apparently, cannot separate physics from
belief.