N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
Dear Joseph Lazio:

"Joseph Lazio" wrote in message
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"NDT" == N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\) N writes:

NDT My point was, if they are moving towards us in any sense,
faster
NDT than c, then the particle/body/object will outrun the light.
We
NDT could *see* nothing coming towards us. And the faster it is,
NDT the closer it would have to be to "motion at 90 deg to line of
NDT sight" to keep from outrunning light that leaves towards us.

Yes, but the model isn't that the ejecta is moving faster than the
speed of light. Consider ejecta moving at 0.999c and moving toward
you.

The concern appears to be "what if they are superlumenal". The
standard
model doesn't have the problem I described. He has so far ignored
the
"normal spectrum", which also limits the jet to sublumenal speed.

Maxwell provides the conundrum I describe, since light travels at c
for all
observers, yet light leaves "forward" from an object travelling at c.
He
seems to be running towards Fizeau next...

Then wasn't Maxwell saying c'=c+v , and thus in direct conflict with
AE?

How is the increasing length per time (velocity) of these jets
measured?
SR believers might claim that the only legitimate measurement would be
that of a traveller on the jet! Otherwise, SR is decapitated right
here, with the obvious and trivial observation that velocity has NOT
shrunken the moving body!

Jim G
c'=c+v