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Old January 5th 05, 04:05 AM
Matt Giwer
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Default "State of Fear" Crichton's new book about Global Warming (spoilers)

Julius wrote:
I guess it never occurred to you that this planet is in a constant
state of flux on a level that dwarfs mankind's perception. So the ice
caps melt? OK, someday the earth cools again and they reform to their
previous state.


Here's three words of wisdom for you .... Adapt ... improvise ...
overcome.


It's far more constructive and purposeful than whining about things you
can't control.


Quite interesting we have no idea of the range of stable conditions
which can exist. We have only a tentative idea of the change in the
"average" which causes or ends and ice age.

Mainly the problem is we really don't know that much about the
weather. Our weather guys (like the tool guy) claim great accuracy.
But collect seven day forecasts for seven days and see how the
prediction for tomorrow is little more than "just like today" which is
right 80% of the time because weather tends to remain constant for
five day periods.

We don't have a fraction of the information needed to predict long
term trends. But the few pieces we have are so blown out of proportion
that they appear to be dominant. We have no idea what is dominant if
anything.

We do know life has survived for 4 billion years without any help
from intelligence. We know every "dominant" criteria today has been
greatly exceeded, higher or lower, in the past.

In fact we suffer from the same issue as sci.astro.seti of having
only one data point, that point being our current condition without
the least knowledge of how they work together if they do or if any of
them are critical or dominant or even important. We have no idea if
CO2 matters in the least. We know for a fact water vapor is the most
important "gas" regulating temperatures is a complex, interactive and
poorly understood manner -- poorly understood in a global sense for
certain and often in a local sense.

We have a good indication Greece became markedly more arid around
1200 BC and we note civilization increased afterwards. Post hoc ergo
propter hoc is false but early Greek civilization did not collapse
because of it.

Climate change for human causes is a scam, a con game, a stupid
greenie religion.

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