"don findlay" wrote in message
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"jonathan" wrote in message ...

You have to visualize an organized
system like that narrow point where water is just turning
into steam, and back again. So that it's not really
either. The /components/ of a self-organized ecosystem
would behave in the same way, chaotically.
Simplicity and predictability are only found
in the system as a whole.

So reducing to components to figure 'things' out
produces a contradiction. An attempt at precisely
determining the chaotic. In the end one is doomed
to conclude everything is ultimately 'uncertain'.
The uncertainty principle is the result of observing
through reductionism, not a property of nature.

It's the same thing with the duality of light.
A natural system is an unstable equilibrium
between static and chaotic forms. So when
breaking into components/measuring it become
one or the other. In the case of light either a
particle or wave. When in motion it's both
and neither, like the nearly steaming pot.
Like a cloud.

You mean it is only valid/ only exists when in motion? certainly
adding in the motion makes things take on a completely different
significance.


What I mean is that the most important properties
are displayed only when a system is intact. The
self-tuning ability, and many other emergent system
properties, disappear the instant the system is broken
down to parts. Reductionism and determinism destroy
the primary guiding/organizing forces, it destroys what
is most important in understanding ...why.. things work.
The universal creative force can only be seen in the
whole, not in the parts.

And it's in the emergent properties where the solutions
are to what is wrong with something, and how to
fix it, the solutions to reality and how to change it
for the better.






It's bad enough to try to unravel an existing
system that's at hand, to travel far back in
time, or deep into the sky, compounds this
by leaps and bounds. Inherently chaotic means
inherently error filled. To extrapolate that any
distance at all is futile.

So why do we keep trying?


Well, error is the way we learn, ..error begets change, including that
for the 'better'.


I meant error-filled in that the past does not map
proportionally into the future, that cause doesn't
predict effect at the component level as math
and physics seem so desperate to do.



Why do we do it? Dunno. Pushing the boundaries
of cosmic mystery or something. Insecurity.


Yep, the world is so complex and dynamic, it's comforting
to find simplicity and predictability.


Knowing our mortality.
The need to understand in ways that integrate and validate our
experience. An unfortunate consequence of intelligence - the ability
to recognize analogies and put them to use ('useful analogies').
'Unfortunate' because it's bred of dissatisfaction. Maybe it's the
lot of humanity to be grumpy and insecure.. Maybe we weren't meant
to be happy.


I think happiness can be expressed mathematically.

Happiness is a search algorithm. The variables are
search space and the tools used in searching.
Both the possibility space and tools are immense.

We're all searching for something, so we can
either wander aimlessly about hoping to stumble
into it, or decide in advance and plot a direct path.
In the first choice the direction and tools are unclear
so the search engine is likely to stay put, or just
move back and forth......Unhappy.

The second choice...a lofty goal.. narrows the search space
and tools dramatically. And provides an unending
sequence of adventures, and the need for new
skills, for each sub-goal along the way.

Determinism vs Holism.

Happiness is directly related to the frame of reference
initially chosen for our search. Looking at details first
leads to a disconnect between our nature...searchers
and the results...stuck in neutral.

Looking at the goal first restores the symmetry between
man and nature. So I set a very lofty goal for myself
as the concepts indicate the loftier the goal the more
likely is happiness and success for at least some of
the sub-goals.

I decided my goal was to return the world to Nature.
So that humanity could fulfill it's destiny to swim in beauty
sooner rather than later. I want that reality, I believe
it's possible, as reality is what we make it. We change
reality all the time, so why not make it into a dream.




Why we keep wanting to 'improve' things. Maybe that's
why 'to be happy' is such a sought after goal - and so elusive.


Let me lay out my plan g I intend to see this through
to success.

What does it mean to 'return the world to nature'?
Complexity science is clear on this, nature is a
complex adaptive system, so is democracy.
So a world of free democracies is then the goal.

What is the path to a world of free democracies?
Well, that is easy to see, China is ONE FOURTH
of the world. So changing that one brittle system
can pretty much wrap that goal up in bows.

What is the path to democracy in China?
Rigid systems breed stress as the people are
adaptive while the system is not. They drift apart
over time. Complexity science is all about far
from equilibrium/stressed systems. Creation or
self organization occurs when a system is under
it's maximum stress. Under those conditions a system
is highly sensitive to disturbances. A small disturbance
can cascade throughout the system ala Janet and Justin
at the Super Bowl, a textbook example.

One need only find a critical point, a point where the entire
system is focused at once, within a highly stressed
or censored system. A breast at the Super Bowl.

Or a falun gong protest at the Beijing Olympics in 08.
China fears nothing more than the falun gong movement.
China fears nothing more than rain on their
great parade.

The cliche 'self-fulfilling prophesy' occurs best when
a system is at such a critical point.

So how does one go about creating a credible conspiracy?
Having many people share the same goal, for that
will lead them down the same paths using the same
tools.

So how does one create similar goals in other people?
By convincing them that holism...setting goals...emergent
properties...are the path to happiness.

The circle is complete, which means the goal is
achievable.

A common and effective understanding of reality is
needed, which is lacking in classical methods. Since
classical searches are so wide open and confused
there is little consensus on goals.

It doesn't have to be that way

So how do I convince people complexity science
provides that consensus and common goal?

My first attempt was to build some tangible system
of my own based on these concepts. And test them
out in the real world to see for myself, and then
to demonstrate to others. So I built a very testable
system, a stock trading strategy based on
complexity science. It works great! I'll post the
system here when the time is right. Success there
will mean more money...which means more time
and resources to build my little conspiracy.

As a teaser, look up the ten day chart of ticker
'bits'. Came up on my screener lunch time Tuesday
and what a party it's been this week. I find a couple
of these a month now.

My second attempt is to try to figure out the mystery
of Meridiani. Before long I'll know if that was a
success also, I'm very bullish right now g

I haven't a clue what the next step is, but I'm
confident it'll present itself when the time is right.

I've become a devout optimist since the concepts
I constantly rant about sank in. Anyone would
as they give massive reasons to be so.



mean look at George, lugging his popes around. What is there in that
to cheer a bloke up, ...I ask you?

That was a heavy question.


It is the age-old question. How can one be reborn?
How can one gain a new outlook on life, and a
new cause for being.



"THE Bone that has no marrow;
What ultimate for that?
It is not fit for table,
For beggar, or for cat.

A bone has obligations,
A being has the same;
A marrowless assembly
Is culpabler than shame.

But how shall finished creatures
A function fresh obtain?-
Old Nicodemus' phantom
Confronting us again "



By E Dickinson


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