Scott Lowther wrote:
France is a demoracy, yet is France one of 'America's friends'?

They gave America the Statue of Liberty!

And America gave the French liberation from the Nazis. Which is more
important?

Americans tend to conveniently forget that only 2 countries gave the USA
concrete intelligence with regards to 9-11 itself. France and Syria.

But once the USA ran out of "9-11" stories and felt it needed another
evil-doer, it concucted stories about Iraq at which point it lost the support
of the world. Ironic that the USA government chose to insult and turn into an
ennemy those 2 nations that cooperated so much real intelligence for 9-11.

The americans wanted to invade Iraq ? They refused to shift control to a
neutral party (UN) ? Then they should stop complaining about the 87 billion
bill their little excursion into Irak will cost them. And of the americans
were so gullible as to believe what Bush was saying about Irak, and if
Americans accused anyone who didn't believe Bush of being unpatriotic, then
let the Americans pay that $87 bill in their taxes and higher national debt
for many many years to come.

Had the american media been objective, they wouldn't have acted as a
propaganda avenue for the current Bush regime and would have blasted that "so
called evidence" and sided with the rest of the world against Bush and Bliar.
Instead of an invasion of Irak, you would have had impeachment proceedings
against bush and company.

Remember that there was a working group of inspectors who were on site in
Irak. Their intelligence was far more reliable than some fake satellite images
presented by the USA or some report written by some student about the past in
Irak which was used by the Bliar government to generate a "dossier" that
pretended that there was a clear and imminent threath. Do americans even know
about what happened to the british spoecialist who did reveal that the dossier
contained fake information ? The american media adidn't cover much the inquiry
that followed. It is a shame because it was very damning to Bliar and Bush.


The USA was unwilling to give those UN inspectors a few more weeks. But we are
expected to believe that even after 6 months on the ground, the US military
should be granted unlimited time to find (or plant) those alledged weapons.

Let this be a lesson to every country: if you cannot convince the UN of your
so called evidence, it probably means that our so called evidence is not good
enough to proceed with war. And if you still go ahead with unilateral invasion
of another nation, then expect to pay 100% of the bill.


Perhaps the next time, taxpayers will think twice about supporting such an
invasion. And perhaps the opposition will do its job and oppose such invasion
instead of blindly supporting it because they didn't want to be called unpatriotic.

The germans too were highly patriotic during WW-II and blindly supported their
government because they had been told that what their government was doing was
the right thing. They didn't quite believe some of the horror stories that
were coming from outside germany and prefered to believe what their own
government was telling them.

And once the USA media starts to show all the horror stories of illegally
detained without any charges, illegally deported to countries where they were
tortured for one year, people with valid visas being detained into cells
containing 12 people with lights constantly on as a method of torture in the
hopes that some of them would come forth and admit some sort of crime, then
perhaps the americans will be just as ashamed of what their country has done
as germans are of what their country has done.

Interesting that outside of the USA, we do see all the stories of human right
abuses inside the USA but american media don't carry those. How many americans
were aware that Amnisty International had setup booths in front of INS offices
after so many people disapeared after a visit to INS office to have paperwork
updated/checked ? Their role was to take down names/numbers of relatives so
that those could be contacted by AI in case the person entering the INS office
didn't come out. The INS didn't bother advising family members that the father
had been illegally arrested, and moved to a prison in a different city without
any right to call a lawyer.

We are not talking about individual cases, here, we are talking about 10s of
thousands of cases of illegal arrests.

In the soviet days, most russians were unaware of what was really going on in
the siberian camps etc. In the current days, most americans are unaware of
what is really going on in american prisons, airports, and streets.