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Old October 18th 03, 03:23 PM
B. Isaksen
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In any case, any American familiar with our form of government would be apt
to agree. We're a Republic. We've never espoused to be a "true" democracy
(except perhaps at the town level.)


But somebody here is a critic of China for not beeing a democracy. It
is fully posible to become active in politics through therir system
too. Surprise. If you know Aristotles "The State" you might have some
thoughts about what system is the best.

Press not supportive of the govermental actions of USA doesn't get a
pass to the stock exchange. If that is not sanction, what is?


Huh? What are you talking about?

The government doesn't control the "stock exchange" (besides, which one are
you referring to, we have a number of them you know.)


And you can find a newspaper that will cover any subject you want from any
point of view you want.


So tell me how this is not a sanction?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in546042.shtml

Democraty means "people rule". They dont. The number of people woting
in USA is to low to be considered a democraty. The system is flawed as
it is clearly failing.

Proof?


The number of people woting.

Or perhaps the system is wildly successful and people feel little need to
express their views. Those who disagree are capable of expressing their


Inhabitant of dreamland, can you imagine the opposite? That people has
lost faith to the system? That the system does'nt provide true choice
as people can't get news coverage and a campain if they're not
employed by coorperate America.

views. In fact, one of our states just recalled their governor. So
obviously people can express their views.


Like Bush said: "Eigther you are with us, or against us". That does
not leave room for dissenting views. If you are not with us you are
unpatriotic. That is to effectly block free speach and the right to
think independant. In that possibly short second of doubt you lost
your freedom.

You are allowed to be muslim in USA, but you risk losing your job, or
beeing jailed without forml reason. Or if you are from another part of
the world like Afganistan, you are not given the most fundamental
rights as considered by the rest of the world.


The recent actions by the US government bear close scruitny. And guess
what, they are getting them. The courts aren't exactly happy with
everything the White House is doing and has made it clear. Many people
aren't happy and they've made it clear. Despite what some may call abuses
of our government (and I tend to think we've gone to far in some areas) you
don't find people "disappearing". Protests are held, even televised.


There is always a war, always an excuse. This time the Senate threw
away fundamental human rights. The White House is just one of serveral
unhealty bodies in coorperate America.

Well, sorry we didn't get around to our grand experiment sooner. But I'll
hazard a guess we'll be around for awhile longer. In fact if you look at
most despotic states formed in the last 100 years, very few are left. Tends
to argue that they are on the way out.


A despotic state does'nt live longer than it's despot, so I'm hardly
surprised.

Sincerly
Bjørn Ove