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Old December 20th 03, 01:48 AM
Dark Helmet
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I see what you're saying, but I think you're missing his point. Let me try
his logic:

1. It took 12 billion years for the light from the nebula to reach us.
2. Therefore, the nebula was 12 billion light years away from us 12 billion
years ago.
3. Therefore, the universe was 14-12=2 billion years old when the light
left the nebula on it's way to us.
4. Therefore, the nebula was 12 billion light years away from us when the
universe was 2 billion years old.

So, the question remains, how did the nebula get 12 billion light years away
from us when the universe was only 2 billion years old? Particularly when
the speed of light is supposed to be the max speed of anything?

Dark Helmet

"Kilolani" wrote in message
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Umm... actually the 2 billion (light) years was since the beginning of the
universe (arguably 14 billion light years ago), so it moved 12 billion

light
years away in 12 billion light years, not in 2 billion years.

"Charlie Martin" wrote in message
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Hi,
This is the first time I've visited your site so I hope this

question
is properly submitted. I recently watched a program about the oldest
observed object. It was estimate that the nebula was 12 billion light

years
away, meaning we were see it as it was only 2 billion years after the
beginning of the universe.
My question, assuming the big bang and relativity are correct, how

could
an object move 12 billion light years away in the 2 billion years since

the
beginning of the universe?
I find this quite puzzling and would appreciate a simple answer or a
referral to a web site or something that could explain this.