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Old January 28th 04, 04:43 AM
Jon Isaacs
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Default Orion 80 mm ED Apo via Zeiss Telementor 63/840

Does he carry the ED80?

Tom


As I said: "I believe these
scopes are scopes he received from Synta to sell."

1. From Markus's original post:

"Today I received my first 3 samples Orion 80 mm ED Apos and could
already test them."

2. If you take the time to checkout the APM-Telescopes Germany website you
will find they (Markus) are indeed the German Synta dealer.

I remember that when the Orion ED80 first came out, Markus had said that he too
was going the sell them. I finally found the link to the S.A.A. post where he
says that he will be getting some samples:

"Date: 2003-08-27 08:32:55 PST

Valery,

I think nobody have to worry for his business about that Orion 80 mm
Apo, why ? Simply it is a matter of fact that it is a Synta Technology
Product and every single dealer who selling Synta telescopes since years
knows the problems they have in most achromats : zones, spherical
aberration, decentering ( coma/astigmatism). Only a few coming out from
many with superb optics. Now if Synta cannot do a good job on a
achromat, do you really expect they doing a better job on a very low
priced ED Apo ? I doubt this for 100%.
So first samples who went in the market are made better to get good
reviews, but when the containers start to ship, chunk like before have
been loadet , you bet with me about that ??????

BTW: getting that scopes in next month for sale, too.

Markus"



http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Or...astro.amateur&
hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=sci.astro.amateur&safe=off&selm=42bdf2f410 4e9cb0f
363bd1fb16a17c3.30545%40mygate.mailgate.org&rnum=3 "

If the link is too long, do a google search on S.A.A. for "Orion APO ludes"

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So, as far as I can see, Markus is a Synta dealer who received 3 ED80's from
Synta for evaluation and who posted an honest evaluation.

Given Markus's extensive experience in evaluating and selling all levels of
scopes both new and used, I do not find it strange in the least that his
evaluation is far less positive than those who have evaluated far few scopes.

I am sure that if Roland Christen, Thomas Back and several others who post here
were to evaluate the ED 80 they would have similar remarks. These people know
what "color free", "well corrected" really means and know what it looks
like....

So rather than thinking the worst of Markus, I suggest rereading what Mrkus
wrote with the respect due a guy has probably looked through more different
scopes in his time than all this group combined, save maybe a few....

Jon Isaacs