On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 5:46:48 AM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:17:54 PM UTC-8, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

Most contributors to this forum here show too much damage...

Gee, I hope I'm not one of them, Gerald... I don't know if I could live with this burden...

Celestial sphere enthusiasts don't carry burdens as the damage is so extensive and perceptually limiting that even when the celestial bubble is smashed into pieces, they can't breath the fresh air of astronomy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVCiPp67vI&t=207s


You could have your beloved RA/Dec system for identification so long as the observations are not used to discern the actual motions of the planets nor the structure of the solar system unlike the older framework of Ptolemy where the Sun didn't wander but the planets did -

http://community.dur.ac.uk/john.luce...n_ecliptic.gif

The cake-and-eat-it mob want the Sun to wander too thereby undoing what the original Sun did in respect to the slower moving planets but now when the Sun can be seen at the centre of the motions of Mercury and Venus -

http://community.dur.ac.uk/john.luce...solar_year.gif


I never carried a burden on behalf of the technical and historical details of astronomy nor is it meant to draw attention to anything other than what contemporary imaging does by condensing observations and allowing perspectives we couldn't have before. I do, however, carry dismay that people haven't discovered what exists beyond a limiting celestial sphere astronomy.