On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:58:59 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 12:24:58 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:

Yes, it does. "Right" and "wrong" are human inventions as well. What
is right in one society may be wrong in another. There are no
absolutes here.

*Of course* there are absolutes in this matter!

Wishful thinking. And IMO, highly dangerous thinking. Once you propose
absolutes, you allow people to claim that their choices are those
absolutes. It takes reason out of the equation. It is the fiction of
such absolutes that has resulted (and continues to result) in the
great harm religions usually cause.

Would _you_ want to be a victim of the next Holocaust?

No. But what I want doesn't enter into it.

No? Well then, if not, come and join us to make _sure_ that everyone
recognizes their obligation to obey the moral absolutes... and their
permission to intervene, by force, against anyone who doesn't.

I need have no concept of moral absolutes to argue for a moral system
that would define holocausts as bad.