On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:10:30 +0100, Paul Schlyter
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:05:08 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
A city without lights would be terrible.

You don't have to go to such extremes. Even cities of centuries ago,
when light pollution was insignificant, weren't completely devoid of
lights.

I'm in favor of decorative lighting in cities. Lighting up bridges and
buildings. Using lighting as art. And there are a great many examples
from around the world of this being done without much light being
wasted and contributing to light pollution.

The problem isn't light, it is bad lighting design.