These kids who never made it to adulthood are a product of an inter-generational tragedy but those who feel themselves above the noise are really part of it, even in silence.

It is the nature of each era to make the best of those who are alive instead of living off perceived past glories but these glories, at least in the mathematician involvement in astronomy is nothing short of catastrophic.

How else to account for the inability to express the Equatorial rotation speed for a 24901 mile circumference using the 24 hour system in tandem with the Lat/Long system - the speed is 1037.5 miles per hour.

The refugees from the science fiction forum are a nuisance breed on their own and far removed from RA/Dec enthusiasts but that they dominate this last place where astronomy is practiced in the way it should. Who can blame these unfortunates from making things up as they go along as the policy of empirical mathematicians have been exactly that for centuries.

I would laugh at these guys but they would see that as an invitation unfortunately.