Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 2:32:25 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 11:44:32 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote many quotations:

People who can be inspired or inspiring (highest form of religion) never
condescend to those who need images of God as a ruler/benefactor/judge
figure and so on because the very nature of being spiritual is sensing
something greater than an individual life. There are no trees or seashore
on Mars or the moon to delight the senses and no sense of the dynamical
which is both linear and cyclical as we progress from child to adult and
watch the seasons return or even the Sun at dawn.

What marks your group off as dead in themselves through indoctrination
is that while many don't give the Sun coming into view much thought, a
small minority do as the planet turns once each 24 hours except you have
a conviction that weekdays and rotations do not amount to the same event.

I could hold up the horrors of Auschwitz as an example between
inspiration driven works and those merely driven by convictions derived
from empirical laws of nature/physics/motion and so on but most of the
time choose to present imaging to help people put observations as they go
along there daily walk through the seasons whether it is the tidal
fluctuations, the temperature changes, the transition from daylight to
darkness ,the changing foliage and all the things that matter to people.

You can support your idea of superior and inferior humanity as a law of
nature and a God you set up in your own head only to knock down -

” A lopsided education has helped to encourage that illusion. Man must
realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole
realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal
struggle and strife. He will then feel that there cannot be a separate
law for mankind in a world in which planets and suns follow their orbits,
where moons and planets trace their destined paths, where the strong are
always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must
obey them or be destroyed.” Hitler






And here I might (if I but durst) reveal
What Pranks are play'd in the Confessional:
How haunted Virgins have been dispossest,
And Devils were cast out to let in Priest:
What Fathers act with Novices alone,
And what to Punks in shriving Seats is done;
Who thither flock to Ghostly Confessor,
To clear old Debts, and tick with Heav'n for more.
Oft have I seen these hallow'd Altars stain'd
With Rapes, those Pews with Buggeries profan'd :

John Odham
17th century

Oh joy !.

You could look at it that empiricists did to astronomy what the
denominational Churches did to Christianity however such a distinction is
drastic and tells nothing of the story of science/astronomy within the
Christian heritage and what give rise to your bunch who can't manage to
associate a rotation with a weekday.

You are driven by convictions derived from empirical 'laws' and the legal
terminology of evidence,proof ect but as you see, it is stone cold and
nothing vibrant is let in whether it is the new way to partition
perspectives between the inner and outer planets, polar sunrise, proof of
the Earth's orbital motion using the field of stars with the Sun as a
foreground reference and many more things.

Sooner or later intellectual pretense is washed out of you when nature
speaks to you in silent motions and the evolution of the seasons, the ebb
and flow of a tide, the appearance of the moon or some other hint of a
life bigger and older than your own.









Nature speaks to you but you are deaf and blind. Ostriches don't bury their
heads in the sand but with you it's second nature.
Facts are inconveniences to you. You prefer your immature fantasies.