On Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:47:31 PM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:
On Sunday, July 20, 2014 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:

On Sunday, July 20, 2014 1:23:42 PM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:



There has never been any question from my perspective that our Operation Paperclip of SS Nazi guys got numerous items of Apollo stuff onto the surface of our physically dark, colorful and paramagnetic lunar surface.







It's the unfiltered Kodak forensics and the supposed science from actually walking upon and driving upon the moon that still doesn't add up to what we're being told to accept, or else.







Are you still suggesting that our DARPA and NASA have never obfuscated or having otherwise lied to us?





No, but isn't it interesting that since the old Nazi guys died they have not been able to get a man back to the Moon?



Double-A



Indeed, it's very interesting, especially when China recently demonstrated how precisely a purely robotic fly-by-rocket landing can be accomplished, and yet our guys with all of their right stuff haven't even been able to deploy any robotic rovers or even basic geology and space weather science instruments, other than remote sampling of our stuff impacting the surface.



The most recent R&D of a viable fly-by-rocket lander that can be scaled to suit is what also kinda puts those Apollo era landers into further question as to their necessary fuels in order to have a surplus of mission fuel and payloads to spare, as strictly downrange pilot flown none the less, because flight computers and automated systems of that era were so primitive compared to the degree of complexity necessary as for accomplishing their most recent lander.



It would be nice to also know how all of that unfiltered Kodak film managed to deal so nicely with such a contrasty photographic environment, and yet never could put anything into any FOV above that physically dark lunar horizon other than Earth, and even of those images of our light-gray monochromatic moon w/Earth had to be doctored and/or subsequently PhotoShopped to suit.



It's actually getting hard to find images from that era that haven't been doctored or PhotoShop revised to suit. Those large format metric mapping images obtained from their Apollo CM orbit are actually a lot more believable, because at least few if any of those look as having been doctored.



Their having to process film on the fly in order to minimize radiation fogging or any of those pesky gamma streaks is probably what degraded their photographic results a little worse than expected. Too bad none of their Apollo era film is ever accessible for independent forensics.



BTW; China also has those high-resolution CCD cameras with full color imagers that can operate at 400 K, so at least that's quite an improvement over anything our DARPA, NASA or Kodak has to offer.


Sounds like it's China today that has the "right stuff"!

Double-A