"bob haller" wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 8:22 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Nov 3, 5:33 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Nov 2, 11:27 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

The columbia loss killed the shuttle program, sure the vehicle cost
a
couple billion but the program ended because the design killed 2
crews.

Don't be silly. The program ended because the vehicles got old.

the program was ended by the safety board over safety issues, if
columbia had not been lost the program would still be in operation
today as long as another loss hadnt occured

Reality just doesn't really penetrate to your little corner of the
world, does it?

The YOUNGEST Shuttle was 20 years old. The rest were pushing 30 years
old. They cost too much to fly and the money was needed for something
that could go beyond Earth orbit.

NASA loved the shuttle, it maintained the large workforce. Congress
loved the shuttle too, it provided lots of bucks for the contractors..

it was the fact it killed people and was guaranteed to kill again that
ultimately killed the shuttle itself. If shuttle program managers had
done their job the way they should have ........

the shuttles would still be flying............

As I noted previously, reality just doesn't penetrate to your little
corner of the world.



and might I add SLS wouldnt be ready for a flight beyond LEO till at
least 2023. thats over 10 years from now. and the SLS is so expensive
theres no money for payloads, a true booster to no where..

2019.



if it wasnt for falcon and other private industry efforts we would be
totally dependent on russia forever.....

No, Bobbert. You're just being stupid. I'd say 'again', but you'd
have to do something NOT stupid in between for it to be 'again'.

So, when will the first non-LEO commercial flight be?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

in the 2020s because nasa projects are always delayed espically with
low funding levels......

in freds fantasy world money is available for everything...

I'll believe commercial to BEO when I see it, Bobbert. Reember Pan Am
selling tickets for commercial flights to the Moon? I thought not...