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Old October 27th 12, 07:19 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Matt Wiser
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Typical Bobbert....

On Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:38:38 AM UTC-7, bob haller wrote:
On Oct 26, 10:13*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"

wrote:

"Robert Clark" *wrote in message




....
















On Oct 23, 1:16 pm, Matt Wiser wrote:




On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:54:26 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote:


On Oct 23, 1:40 am, "Matt Wiser" wrote:




Big problem for anti-SLS types: NO political support. There's a grand


total




of one congresscritter who's on record as opposing SLS: Rep. Dana




Rohrabacher (R-CA). And his motives are not entirely pu Space X


has a




facility in his district, and there's several commercial space


outfits with




facilities in SoCal, and no doubt some of his constitutents work at


those




firms.




Nice try, though....




*Unlike many supporters of commercial space I'm neutral on the




question of the SLS. My view is that commercial space will go on




whether or not the SLS is funded.




*Also, in an upcoming blog post I'll discuss that the very first




versions of the SLS scheduled to launch in 2017 will be able to launch




manned lunar missions.




* Bob Clark




Which *is something that NASA intends to to: The first human Orion/SLS


mission


will *be Lunar Orbit. Maybe two or three lunar orbit flights of longer


duration before


going *to L-2 or this President's precious NEO mission. I'm still a "Moon


First" type,


though..




After I wrote that post, I realized I left out a key word: with the


first launch of the SLS in 2017 we will have the capability to launch


manned LANDER lunar missions. This will be important since it will


provide an important, definite mission for the SLS from the very first


launch. The SLS has been called a "rocket to nowhere". That in fact it


will have the capability to return us to the Moon from the very first


launch will be an important point to promote its continued funding.




The key word there is "capability". *Unfortunately there's really no real


drive or mission beyond platitudes to do so.




So it's still a rocket to nowhere that can do something no one really wants


to be pay for (monetarily or polically).




Likely this first launch in 2017 will serve as an unmanned test


mission to show the cryogenic space stages can safely land and take


off from the lunar service with a human-qualified capsule. But


certainly by 2019 we will be able to do the crewed missions, on the


50th anniversary of Apollo 11.




Able to do in 7 years? *We're not even building any hardware to get there.


In 1962 we had firmer plans than now. *And we were in a rush then.




So it's still a rocket o nowhere.








* Bob Clark




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Greg D. Moore * * * * * * * * *http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/


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yep rocket to no where, describes it perfectly.....



pork pig squeals with delight.


Typical Bobbert...