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Old October 25th 12, 06:14 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.astro
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Einstein's Math May Be Compatible With Faster-Than-Light Travel,Mathematicians Say

On 24/10/2012 2:38 AM, Painius wrote:
That's very interesting, Khan!

I imagine that mainstreamers ridicule that idea (especially since you
called gravitation a "force", which is contrary to the general theory
of relativity's "gravity is an 'effect', not a 'force'"), but I *like*
it!


Every other force seems to have an identifiable force carrier particle,
except gravity. But Gravity's force carrier may be spacetime itself.
Since force particles are highly concentrated bundles of energy, this
may explain why all other forces are much stronger than gravity, because
gravity is highly diffuse, non-concentrated. It would also explain why a
force carrier particle for gravity can't be found, as every individual
Planck Length of space itself is the force carrier of gravity: these
would be the particles of discrete spacetime. You'd have to find a scale
lower than the Planck scale to detect this particle.

You describe the negative energy as gravitational, which goes into
matter to eventually, perhaps over great periods of time, cancel out
the compacted positive energy that is called matter.

However (isn't there always a "but"?g), I still don't quite
understand why you appear to have answered an adamant "no" to my
question about antimatter being equal to negative matter.


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Because Anti-matter is still positive energy; it's made from the same
type of energy that matter is made from. Anti-matter looks different to
matter only from the point of view of the 3 non-gravitational forces,
but not to gravity. Matter and antimatter were created after the
split-up of the 3 non-gravitational forces.

The Big Bang is often described as a series of symmetry breakages. The
first force to break off from the other forces is gravity. If gravity
and negative energy are the same thing, then that means the first
symmetry breakage was the split of positive and negative energy from
each other. Then later we had the Weak, Strong, and Electro-Magnetic
forces breaking off from each other. But those three forces came from
the positive energy side of things, as did all of the matter. Thus
matter and anti-matter are both made from positive energy, and thus
don't look any different to gravity which is made from negative energy.

As far as we can tell, the only form of negative energy we know is
gravity. We don't know if within the negative side of the ledger, if any
further symmetry breakages occurred too after the Big Bang. I suspect
that we'll find out that there were symmetry breaks on the negative side
too, and those are what we nowadays call Dark Energy and Dark Matter. In
other words, Dark Energy and Dark Matter are offshoots of Gravity, much
like Weak/Strong/EM are offshoots of each other. It also means that
we'll never find a particle of Dark Matter because it too is just an
effect of spacetime, like gravity is.

Yousuf Khan