On Oct 24, 3:32*am, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:43:44 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
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Painius should (but won't) understand "the Big Bang theory" (Lambda?CDM)..
He just won't; doesn't want to, I assume.

*"Mother Nature" is "The Supreme God": eternal, infinite and perfect.
*She consumes fuel (EXergy); so, virtually , She's "alive".
*[ : Certainly not limited to biblical times/places.
* * : in a notional sort of way, like a map, not real. ]

* *Speaking of God, you belong to tribes/religions of verious sizes..
* *Had you no "tribe", you'd have no "religion"; they are one and the same.

*Randomness is naught but ignorance; so, intrinsically , there is no God,
*and nature is at once "nothing" ( 4?D, changeless and choiceless )
*and everything ( excluding nothing ).
*[ : in reality, despite appearances ]

*Humanity labors to breathe, eat, drink and breed.
*Nature has hard?wired us this way, it wasn't our doing.
*Our "objective" has been fixed by nature, not invented.

* *Speaking of "objectives", the one word mantra/question, "Target?",
* *clears away horrid/debilitating/random thoughts.

* Mass?Energy = Space?Time , they are one and the same.
*Gravity is "EXergy", energy that can do work;
*net net (all things considered), it's forever being consumed away.

* *"Dark Matter" is UNSEEN MASS, "Dark Energy" is EXERGY DEPLETION,
* *and the start of the Big Bang is just the cosmic horizon,
* *similar to the event horizon of an ideal black hole.

*unLike nature, science is finite; it has a horizon, a limit,
*to wit: 13.75 giga?years ago and 46.5 * 2 giga?light?years wide.

I agree that I don't understand the BB. *I certainly don't understand
how anybody in their right mind would even remotely accept that there
was a first "time", an initial "time", after which all time and space
just sort of "took off". *And "before" which has no meaning. *It's
just stupid - royally, unintuitively, and "religiously" stupid.

The Big Bang is a creation myth of science.

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan."

But as mainstream ZNR approved myths go, it's a good one because it
gives their god that doesn't believe in fair play or hell, all the
credit it deserves.

Otherwise, I'm favoring the Big Ongoing of aether flowing from the
pole of a mother BH, with the other universe of aether and molecular
stuff directed out of the other BH pole.

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