On Jul 8, 3:55*pm, AGW Facts wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 23:53:53 -0400, Orval Fairbairn









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*AGW Facts wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:58:11 -0500, Sam Wormley
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What's going on with the Sun?

* *http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

"Earlier this month a lot of column inches were devoted to the news that
the Sun continues to behave in a peculiar manner and that solar
activity could be about to enter a period of extended calm. The story
emerged after three groups of researchers presented independent studies
at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American
Astronomical Society, which appear to support this theory. But are the
new findings really that clear-cut and what implications do they have
for the climate here on Earth?

"Finally, even if the Sun were to head into a quiet period, others argue
that the reduction in solar irradiance on Earth would still be small
compared with the heating caused by man-made global warming. Mike
Lockwood, a researcher at the University of Reading, estimates that the
change in climate radiative forcing since the Maunder minimum is about
one tenth of the change caused by man-made trace greenhouse gases".

See:http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46387

I saw that a day ago. =NONE= of the solar physicists on the
planet, as far as I could find, have said the possible "calm
period" would cool Earth. A few have said it might reduce solar
radiance, temporarily decreasing the current 0.79c anomalous
global temperature increase caused by humanity's CO2 production,
by from 0.2c to 0.4c

The "it's going to get cooler!" belief appears to be yet another
FOX "News" lie fed into the cult's echo chamber. No scientist in
the field said it.
Well, Ray, Basic science teaches us that, if a radiating body reduces
its radiance

... which no solar physicist has said it will....

bodies receiving that radiation will see a proportionate
reduction in radiance received. In short, they don't get
as warm as they did before.

... except that our human-produced CO2 will still warm the planet
more than any possible "cooling of the sun."

I've tried to estimate the all-inclusive human created CO2 and NOx,
and it seems to be worth at least 100 billion tonnes/year (roughly
14.4 tonnes per human), and otherwise it could easily be worth a
trillion tonnes per year (144 tonnes per human). What's your best all-
inclusive swag?

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