"jonathan" wrote in message
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"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
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February 26, 2004

"jonathan" wrote in message :

Proof is mathematical, science is demonstrative.

Besides, Jonathan has already clearly identified the spherules as
the
gemmules of a microbial sponge colony : 'porifera jonathanii'.

Has a ring to it~

If this pic doesn't show imprints of skeletal spicules, I don't know
what else
can!


http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2933M2M1.HTML

Jonathan, if you want an entire phyla named after you, then you have
to do a little more research. Sponges may be soft and spicule free,
and although they can get quite large, what you are seeing do not
appear to be spicules. Start here :



According the reading I've been doing, spicules are unique to
each species. If you look at the original photo that shows
gemmules quite like the spheres, you'll see the skeletal
spicules are long and curved and tend to hook at the
end. Look at the one just above the word gemmule
in the left photo below. There are numerous long
spicules in the soft tissue.

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plfeb96.htm#gemmules

Then compare that long spicule with the earlier photo
of the thread below imaged earlier.
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news....tegory=Science

Linda How is a baffoon. NASA has stated that the landing released a lot of
debris from the lander, and are embarrassed by it because they tried to take
as many precautions as possible pr prevent it.


http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2953M2M1.HTML

If the soft tissue has dried up I would expect the long
curved siliceous spicules to leave marks just as
imaged in the first link above. In that pic, you can
see two large brown patches in the upper left
corner. Just below them is a small brown spot, just
to the left of the small spot you can see a very
small thread sticking out and casting a shadow.

You are imagining things. Stick to math.

But of course these images are open to interpretation, I'm
not going to claim I'm correct about everything I say
when it comes to non mathematical subjects.

Apparently you are not very good at math either.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news....tegory=Science

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2953M2M1.HTML


I never claimed to be an 'ologist' of any sort. Yet I suggested the dunes
need to be reconsidered as possible water features, and finally Nasa
is beginniing to take another look at them.

Not at all. There is plenty of evidence that pyroclastic flows can form
dunes just like what we are seeing on Mars.


Nasa is today calling them geologic ripples instead. They seem to think
they're
wind blown, but a little common sense is needed here. Wind blown ripples
are from gentler winds, yet the ripples are almost exclusively made up of
the
larger 'pebbles'...spheres. I can only conclude their science team is made
up
of only geologists that are determined to find non-living explanations
for everything. I'm not at all surprised they're still scratching their
heads over the spheres and dunes. They're going to contrive wind
patterns to explain them both it seems. Good luck!

Since you are not a geologist, I'm not surprised that you would think so.


"This false-color image from the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit's panoramic
camera
shows peak-like formations on the martian terrain at Gusev Crater.
Scientists have
been analyzing these formations, which have coarse particles accumulating
on their
tops, or crests. This characteristic classifies them as ripples instead of
dunes,
which
have a more uniform distribution of particle sizes. Scientists are looking
further
into
such formations, which can give insight to the wind direction and velocity
on
Mars, as well as the material that is being moved by the wind. This image
was
taken on the 40th martian day, or sol, of Spirit's mission."

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rove...s/image-6.html



I can't wait until Spirit makes it to the crater. Not knowing a thing
about that crater I will offer some wild speculation. The bottom
of that crater will look like the Opportunity crater.

And you'd no doubt be wrong.

Lots of spheres
and more dark clumpy soil, wanna bet? If the crater is big enough
there should be 'ripples' too.

Funny how the wind blown 'ripples' are at the bottom of these Gusev
craters,

Since the only crater Spirit has been in to date is Sutev, I find this not a
little amusing.

I guess there's some odd wind patterns there too. I'm beginning
to lose respect for the Nasa science team.


http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/landing...-00012_05.html

Since no one has any respect for your opinions, you opinion of NASA is
irrelevant. Oh and stop crossposting, dork.