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Old March 28th 11, 11:27 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.astro
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Default Fallacy of Relativistic Doppler Effect


"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 3:53 am, Daryl McCullough wrote:
Koobee Wublee says...


It should be very clear at this stage the Doppler shift no matter
how
you fudge it to be should agree with the energy transform as
described
below.


** f' / f = (1 + [v] * [c]) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)


Look at the obvious problem with this equation. You have V and C as velocity
vectors which means their dot product is in units of meters squared per second
squared, that is, (m/sec)^2. Then you are adding that to the dimensionless
number 1 in your numerator (1+[v]*[c]). In physics you cannot add quantities
that are in different units. Suppose [v]*[c] is 2x10^16(m/sec)^2, just how do
you propose to add that to the dimensionless number 1? In physics you cannot add
6 kilograms to 1 meter just like you cannot add 3(m/sec)^2 to a dimensionless
number.


Where


** [v] = Velocity vector between frames of f and f'
** [c] = Velocity vector of light
** [] * [] = dot product of two vectors


Under the transverse case,


** f' / f = 1 / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)


Where


** [v] * [c] = 0


This means SR predicts a blue Doppler shift in the transverse
direction, and that is totally wrong. shrug


Anyone with half a brain would attempt to execute a graceful
retreat from that. shrug


It smells like a bunch of sour ass losers with unsportsmanlike
conducts. shrug


The bottom line is that SR does not produce what is observed in
experiments. Thus, SR is merely garbage. Just how difficult can
that be? shrug


p_x' = gamma (p_x - Ev/c^2)
p_y' = p_y
p_z' = p_z
E' = gamma (E - p_x v)


Is the transverse Doppler equation not the following?

** E' = gamma (E - p_x v)

Where

** p_x = 0

If yes, WTF is the problem? The transverse Doppler shift under SR is
blue. shrug?

If no, what should the correct equation for transverse Doppler shift
look like according to you?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativ...ppler_eff ect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativ...Doppler_effect


I don't know why you think that there is some kind of
incompatibility.


Is the last equation the same as the following?

** E' / E = (1 + [v] * [c]) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2)


Look at the obvious problem with this equation. You have V and C as velocity
vectors which means their dot product is in units of meters squared per second
squared, that is, (m/sec)^2. Then you are adding that to the dimensionless
number 1 in your numerator (1+[v]*[c]). In physics you cannot add quantities
that are in different units. Suppose [v]*[c] is 2x10^16(m/sec)^2, just how do
you propose to add that to the dimensionless number 1? In physics you cannot add
6 kilograms to 1 meter just like you cannot add 3(m/sec)^2 to a dimensionless
number.

Where

** [v] = Velocity vector between frames of f and f'
** [c] = Velocity vector of light
** [] * [] = dot product of two vectors

As yours truly has said, you guys are bunch of sour ass losers.
shrug

The bottom line is that SR is just garbage. shrug


No!

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