On Nov 18, 6:09*pm, "$27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto"
wrote:
On Nov 18, 10:50*am, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:28:06 -0800 (PST), wrote:
There were several accidents involving nuclear-equipped spacecraft
with what seem to have been, in retrospect, benign outcomes WRT
nuclear contamination. *These occurred before the Cassini and New
Horizons protests. The engineers were well aware of potential dangers
and designed accordingly, without input from the protesters.

I didn't say the engineers weren't aware of the potential dangers, nor
that they in any way had bad designs. I was only pointing out that
gadflies can actually provide some service in bringing these kinds of
things to the public eye

Innumeracy is still the affliction of the mentally weak. *The
inability to appreciate the odds of an accident are so low they aren't
worth worrying about. *Nitwits insist we go through terahertz airport
scanners and get patted down, all on the off chance that 1 in 350
MILLION might die in a terrorist act. *If dying from any cause truly
worries anyone, then get the F--- out of your CARS because you have a
FAR higher chance of injury or death from that.

Responsible people,at least those with common sense,generally know
when the game is up after the wheels fall off a popular bandwagon but
as so often happens,there are always some who insist on dancing long
after the party is over,something like this -

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/468345a.html

These people are concerned about defending their ideology that humans
can control global temperatures rather than before 'climategate'
where they were simply promoting it and dismissing everyone else.The
reason this particular bandwagon emerged in the first place is mainly
due to the lack of astronomers,at least astronomers worthy of the
title insofar as humanity doesn't even have an accurate cause behind
the temperature fluctuations between January and July due to an
accurate assessment of the planetary dynamics behind this fluctuation
hence there is little point trying to force conclusions based on minor
temperature variations when the major fluctuations across latitudes
have still to be sorted out.

Too often readers get mangled by getting caught up in minutiae such as
this attempt to force global temperatures through the prism of a minor
atmospheric gas thereby losing the wider picture,the fact that climate
has alway altered the biology and even the geological history of the
planet as it is written down in rocks and fossil records and,in all
respects, that is the most disappointing feature is all the hyperfuss
over human influences on global temperature in that it would have
short-circuited all other sciences in the process.For instance,had
this carbon dioxide bandwagon kept rolling and they forced through the
belief that humans can control temperature then what next ?,if the
global temperature goes up,it would then be proposed that more needed
to be done and if the global temperature dropped it would have be
proposed that emission restrictions were working yet it would prohibit
the investigation of any natural causes that actually influence global
temperatures.

After 'climategate' it is easier now to see just how large a bullet
our race has dodged but the climate issue is only a small facet of a
much bigger problem which the scam exposed and that is why many
scientists are running scared,those scientists who live off modelling
agendas which were once restricted to those who make a terrific living
out of dumping toxic concepts into the astronomical arena and love
nothing better than making big sweeping generalizations without fear
of being challenged just got badly burned when they encounter actual
science of experience where things are up close and personal.It is not
climate that is the problem,it is the way science approaches natural
phenomena in trying to model its way to a conclusion and that is why
you will see many scientists now clamoring to dismiss the social
agenda based on carbon dioxide,not for reasons that it is bad science
but that it is bad for all scientists and the 'scientific method'
where the real scam is.