On Nov 6, 2:17*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 11/6/10 8:57 AM, oriel36 wrote:

Intellectually you can't even rise
to this basic cause and effect,in attempting to believe in an utterly
stupid 366 1/4 rotations in a year therefore a conversation at a more
complex level such as weather and climate is impossible.

* *Measurement with a gyro yields 366.242199 earth rotations per year..
* *The same value can be obtained by sighting a bright circumpolar star
* *the two sticks for a full year.


In an open forum that has many thousands of readers each day and
nobody will affirm that daily rotation is responsible for the day/
night cycle hence the major problems humanity faces is not climate or
any other perceived external threat but this huge problem.The 24 hour
leap day rotation,I repeat,the Feb 29th 2012 24 hour rotation will
close out almost 4 orbital circuits of 365 1/4 rotations.Is it that
you can't count the squares that make up the 365 rotations and days
between Mar 1st 2010 until Feb 28th 2011 because that actually is the
only effort required and the 366 rotations between Mar 1st 2011 until
Feb 29th 2012 allowing the next sequence of 1461 days and rotations to
commence and keep roughly in sync with the astronomical cycles from
which the timekeeping system emerges.

* *Those are the undeniable physical observations, Gerald.


Every midnight go out an sight a star with your two sticks and the
star will return 3 minutes 56 seconds earlier the next night,sight the
next star at midnight and that too will return 3 minutes 56 seconds
earlier without fail and so on and on without exception.It does not
take any sort of brilliance to figure out that the observation using
the constant return of a star uses days and dates within the calendar
system therefore the observation just tags along in groups of 365 and
366 days.To lie to yourselves at this level is quite something else
for it is actually explaining the convenience of the calendar system
where the steady progression of 1461 days runs into a steady
progression of years using these 24 hour days.If people here were not
so silly,it would be celebrated as a huge human achievement that it
is.

You have to be so dumb to make something of the 3 minute 56 second
difference to 24 hours as the observation will only happen 365 times
from Mar1st this year until Feb 29th 2011 and 366 times from Mar 1st
2011 until Feb 29th 2012.

* *You still confuse "day/night cycles", which are approximately 361
* *rotations from noon sun to noon sun with earth rotations (360 )
* *that are measured with respect to the "fixed" stars and the universe
* *as a whole.

* *Gyros do not lie, Gerald.

What would be the bigger problem ? - that men could no longer
understand that daily rotation is responsible for the day/night cycle
so that there are no more than a full 365 rotations in one orbital
cycle or that carbon dioxide is going to destroy the world as we know
it.There is nothing remotely close to the loss of the most
fundamental correspondence of them all and all because one guy made a
mistake that can be easily sorted out by explaining what a 24 hour
rotation on Feb 29th does ! and you guys still think there is a
difference between 365 1/4 days/rotations and one orbital period.

I love how the ancient system and the brilliant people who created it
can make you and your colleagues look so idiotic because you haven't
thought the principles through correctly.Now I know there are
astronomical doctorates that come here and the fact that they could
manage to maintain something as utterly ridiculous as being a whole
rotation out each year devalues that doctorate to a bankrupt title.I
don't give a damn what astronomers thought before,this is a problem
that is front and center and must be dealt with.