On Oct 20, 1:25*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Oct 20, 9:45*am, bert wrote:





On Oct 20, 9:56*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Oct 20, 5:19*am, bert wrote:

On Oct 20, 6:08*am, "Painius" wrote:

Planets Jupiter and Selene (the Moon)...

Were they not *stunning* last night as they slowly crossed
our sky together?

Did you see how CLOSE together they were?

For me this is the strongest piece of evidence in favor of
Selene (the Moon) as a full-fledged planet in its own right.

Does the Moon go around our planet on Earth's equator?
NO ! *Satellites, true satellites that were evidently made in
the same time frame and the same area as their primary
planets, THESE go around their planets riding the equator.
NOT the Moon !

Jupiter and the Moon (planet Selene) both ride very near
the ECLIPTIC, that is, the flat plane of the Earth's orbit
around the Sun.

Check just about any table of parameters of planets and
satellites, and you will find that when it comes to the
"inclination" of a satellite, it is always given in degrees
from the primary planet's EQUATORIAL plane. *And all
"inclinations" of the planets (including dwarf planet Pluto)
are always shown in degrees from the ECLIPTIC plane.

Since planet Selene (the Moon) is so much closer to the
ecliptic than it is to Earth's equatorial plane, astronomer's
always list the Moon's "inclination" in degrees from the
ECLIPTIC plane, just like all the *other* planets !

Another reason they do this is because of the Moon's big
variation of its distance from Earth's equator, from 18 to
23 degrees. *The Moon's distance from the ecliptic is only
about 5 degrees !

This is why planets Jupiter and Selene can be so close in
the sky. *And this is also one of the strongest reasons to
consider Selene to be a full-fledged planet in its own
right !

Would you like to know more?...

*http://ebooksgolden.com/bb_Selene_toc.html

Enjoy !

Happy days *and*...
* *Starry, starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

PS - "Intuition will tell the thinking mind
* * * * where to look next." * * Jonas Salk

PPS -http://astro.painellsworth.net!
* * * * * *http://www.secretsgolden.com!
* * * * * * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth!

Painius When the moon covers the Sun so perfectly is shows its big ang
just the right size and distance away. *Our moon is just right as to
how it relates to Earth *Its the only moon to do this. Painius a 'Rose
is a Rose" *Calling the Moon "Selene" or listing it as a rock planet
does not make any difference. TreBert

Just like you've made no difference, but then 99.9999% of us are only
here because the other 0.00001% couldn't prevent our existence, but
they all wish we were gone so that they could have this whole planet
to themselves.

Our moon was a captured icy planetoid, just like Venus arrived hot and
many other items got captured by the sub-brown dwarf Jupiter, Saturn
and Uranus. *But then you like to worship everything about the
mainstream status quo, so by all means have it your way.

Painius is mostly a mainstream parrot that enjoys a little outside
thinking, but then crawls back into his cozy failsafe mainstream box
and parrots on behalf of those that tell us what we can or can not
believe, just like you believe in pictures as long as you don't have
to actually interpret anything that isn't approved by the mainstream
gods that you worship.

btw; *geode rocks come in all sizes, including those as large and
massive as 7.35e22 kg. *You should know better about hollow stuff,
because there's even pictures showing lots of people standing inside
of them.

Since you don't really believe in utilizing technology, means that
99.9999999% of all other planets or moons are off limits to you. *That
leaves you with one out of a billion, whereas with minimal applied
technology makes at least one out of every thousand worth while for
our Goldilocks, though most every one out of ten could actually be
extremely valuable and accessible to those of us thinking positive/
constructive thoughts.

*~ BG

BG I don't need the likes of you to interperate my thoughts. You have
a forked big mouth that needs watching * TreBert

You do like having your cake and eating too. *I suppose that I too
could say one thing today and another tomorrow and yet another the day
after that, and manage to get away with it because folks here have
such short term memories and no actual intentions of ever being
consistent or much less constructive.

I too could pretend that NASA has always told us the whole truth and
nothing but the truth, as supposedly the one and only government
agency that we can truly trust to not be holding anything back. *At
least at times that's exactly how you respond whenever something of
NASA agrees with your on-again, off-again mindset.

You mean if a known ZNR mafia crook does something/anything good, it
automatically wipes out all the bad stuff? (I could get used to that
kind of public funded unlimited do-over policy of yours)

btw; *How did your pretend court date go? (badly?, so so? or none of
our business?)

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Court was actually a waste of tax payers money (time too) No judge no
hearing. Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansell and Poke count sheriff Grady Judd
will delay and delay,untill they find away to kill me. They have
tried two times,and the third time they could manage it. Their two
attemps left me with bleeding uraine,and very hard for me to walk. I
use both walker and wheel chair now When they kill me they will
answer to no one. Today's news has the 87 year old man police broke
his neck have the sheriff saying they did it in the line of duty. Ha
Ha Ha All this shows the direction USA is going Its Now a fascist
state ruled by those in power. Killing is what GOP fascist do best. I
wonder if I will live long enough to take my Tang and have me carted
to the Dump by Waste Management? They are the only ones that make a
$255 funeral possible TreBert