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**William December Starr** · May 15th 10, 01:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,rec.arts.sf.written

In article ,
(Derek Lyons) said:

David Johnston wrote:

It is fundamentally fallacious to regard the "environmental
movement" as an individual who has been saying things in the
first place.

And no less fallacious to do the same with regards to "big oil and
the fossile fuel lobby groups".

I don't know about that. The "environmental movement" is pretty
inchoate, with no official leadership and anybody with a big mouth
can be a member; "big oil" on the other hand is a relatively small
and identifiable set of (corporate) entities, and there's a bit of
an entry barrier.

That's not to say that "big oil is a monolithic bloc" isn't
fallacious, but I think it's a lot _closer_ to being one than is the
"environmental movement" (when speaking or acting on matters that
affect the industry as a whole, of course).

-- wds