On Apr 14, 4:35Â*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 4/14/10 4:13 AM, oriel36 wrote:

On Apr 14, 5:55 am, Sam Â*wrote:
Backward planets may have flipped into place
Reversed orbits among ‘hot Jupiters’ decreases chance of Earthlike
neighbors.http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...Backward_plane...

I am looking at the list of threads and Â*this topic is sandwiched
between the guy who sees fossils in meteorites,another who apparently
sees human remains in coal strata and it all comes from the same
attempt to appear original and controversial at the same time and if
there is a nauseating feeling for many when they encounter junk,it is
probably the most valuable faculty they have before descending into
conceptual oblivion.

Â* Â*That's your problem, Gerald. There is no connection.


I once thought that the nearest astronomical insight to the daylight/
darkness cycle due to rotation was the daylight/darkness variations in
the seasonal cycles at different latitudes but discovered last year
that it is the latitudinal variations in twilight length correlated
with latitudinal speeds which represent the nearest association to
daily rotation,the fact that the Earth is round causes twilight length
to vary with latitude as a location rotates through the circle of
illumination at various speeds,the slower the speed,the longer the
twilight.The insight is a simple and effective way to bring up the
known rotational speeds and especially the maximum speed of 1037.5
miles per hour at the equator,also representing 15 degrees of
geographical seperation,thereby it all fits together neatly where the
Earth turns 15 degrees per hour and a full equatorial circumference in
24 hours.

In the absence of telescopes,the great astronomers were extremely good
at putting observations in context whereas the magnification tool adds
detail,the problem was that astronomers sacrificed detail for context
and eventually lost context altogether with the rise of empiricism.I
am restoring the link between detail and context which modern imaging
provides and especially the ability to make planetary and even solar
system comparisons in order to discover a streamlined explanation out
of the distinctive features of each planet,solar system comparisons
using the Fomalhaut system are just as fascinating but that is a long
way off at present.

Being in a position to prove rotation once in 24 hours using cause and
effect only allows me to offer people a second chance to revisit the
great astronomical insights using the tools of modern imaging and all
those modifications and adaptations which are waiting for those who
can rise to a level of understanding of planetary dynamics whether it
is climate,geology,solar system structure,influence of the solar
system's galactic orbital motion on orbital dynamics and many,many
other things.The other option is to remain stuck in the late 17th
century Ra/Dec framework which gives you those hideous 'no center/no
circumference' ideologies of big bang/black hole,non-entities which
exist only as wordplays in the minds of mathematicians for a person
who tries to imagine a 'no center/no circumference' object will end up
laughing at the stupidity of it all.

You can continue with the latest/greatest empirical novelty,these
things always have an audience, but effectively they have the same
substance as the fossil guys and most here now know it.






Â* Â*It was a particular joy to me to apply Kepler's third law to
Â* Â*the observations of the Fomalhaut System and find that the mass
Â* Â*falling out of Kepler's equation agree beautifully with the mass
Â* Â*predicted by the spectra of that star.

Â* Â*Gerald I don't think you have the mathematical background to
Â* Â*understand Kepler's third law in its modern applications, but
Â* Â*do look at:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler's_laws_of_planetary_motion#Third_law

Â* Â* Â*4Ï€^2a^3 = P^2G(M + m)

Â* Â*Gerald, just because you can't understand the mathematics, does
Â* Â*not make it wrong.

Â* Â*Fomalhaut's mass is about 2 solar masses.
Â* Â*Fomalhaut-b's orbital RADIUS is 115 astronomical units, a = 115 AU.
Â* Â*Fomalhaut-b's orbital PERIOD is 872 years, T = 872 years.

Â* Â*And using Kepler's third law, we get,

Â* Â* Â* P^2 = (2Ï€)^2 a^3 / G M

Â* Â* Â*(872 yr)^2 = (2Ï€)^2 (115 AU )^3 / G (3.978 × 10^30 kg)

Â* Â*Kepler's third law works beautifully for the Fomalhaut system! The
Â* Â*observations agree beautifully with Kepler's law of Harmony!