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Old April 2nd 10, 11:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default 39-day trip to Mars

On Apr 2, 12:06*pm, William Mook wrote:
On Mar 31, 8:45*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



On Mar 31, 2:48*pm, William Mook wrote:


On Mar 30, 2:49*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Mar 30, 4:40*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:


William Mook wrote:


:On Mar 23, 1:23*am, Brad Guth wrote:


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:I have said for nearly 20 years now, and continue to say, the less you
:have to post in response to what I say, the better off we'll all be.
:


That thought can be simplified to "The less you post (either of you),
the better off we'll all be."


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine


In other words, you're either a Rothschild, Jewish or at least Semite
worthy.


What's your best alternative for getting us safely to/from Mars?


*~ BG


In 1944 Stanislaw Ulam said he could build an engine that not only
could destroy downtown Chicago, but he could also build an engine that
could transport downtown Chicago safely to the surface of Mars.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/xeni/272457786/


An 8 million ton ship is quite capable of carrying 1 million people
and requires 3,000 tons of bombs. *Fusion bombs, triggered by nuclear
triggers permits our current inventory of weapons grade fissile
material to support the operation of 10,000 such ships with a total of
10 billion berths throughout the solar system. * At $0.50 per kg (the
price of steel in quantity) these ships cost $4 billion each so 10,000
cost $40 trillion - about 9 months worth of global production - and
equal to what we've spent on warfare in the 20th century.


According to "The Onion", Americans spent, wasted and/or having blown
roughly $14 trillion trying to look and act cool each year.
*http://www.theonion.com/articles/rep...nt-annually-on...


Btw; *what's so great about Mars, other than currently there's not
another human or any other form of any soul upon that inert and mostly
cold planet?


*~ BG


Robert Zubrin recounts the advantages of settling Mars with current
technology in his book CASE FOR MARS.


I and most others don't agree with Robert Zubrin.

It's not that unlimited public loot backing such a private hobby can't
be accomplished the way Zubrin and yourself seem to think. It's just
that so far there's not even a 0.1% payback for all the investment and
the all-inclusive risk involved, unless you guys are talking one-way
tickets.

Any microbes or spores that could have survived Mars should be next to
impossible to keep from taking over Earth. That's why I'd proposed my
LSE-CM/ISS as yet providing another good failsafe logistical reason
for its investment, so that interplanetary treks never brought back
such unknowns into our frail environment that's on its last leg as is,
at least not until sufficient evidence proved there was no added risk
from whatever ET biodiversity.

~ BG