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Old February 24th 10, 04:46 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)[_834_]
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Default Cost of Space Travel (and communication)

William Mook wrote:
On Feb 23, 8:34 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
William Mook wrote:
David Spain said, "Problem is that in the most affluent areas that
would actually subscribe, "


William Mook replies;


The world is rich enough to subscribe generally. Average global
income is $10,350 per person per year.


RANK INCOME PEOPLE SERVICE PACKAGE


Low income: $1,407 1.5 billion $1/year - 2 MHz - $20
handset
Middle income: $6,157 3.8 billion $1/month - 10 MHz - $200
netbook
High income: $37,141 1.5 billion $12/month - 60 MHz - $2000
laptop


You've got to be kidding. You expect someone to spend $2000/year for
your connectivity?


No - I expect someone to spend about $144 per yer for connectivity in
Europe, Japan, Australia, North America.


Remind me for what bandwidth?





With 33% market penetration $85 billion per year is earned.


And with 100% market penetration you earn $255 B per year.


Yes. Put that's the entire population, so it is very unlikely that
figure will be reached quickly.


Umm, try at all. Show me a single vendor that has achieved even 33% market
penetration of the ENTIRE population.



And with 0% you earn nothing.


That is unlikely with the system available at $12 per month for
unlimited bandwidth for the highest paying customer and $1 per month
for most customers and $1 per year for lowest paying customer.


Unlimited bandwidth? Now I know you're really smoking dope. So if I want
100Gig of bandwidth for $12/month, you can provide it? Excuse me while I
stop to laugh my ass off.


My costs are substantially lower, my product is substantially
superior.


Right, which is why so many people out there are building it. Oh wait, NO
ONE is. Hell, Sirius and XM can't make a profit on a cheaper idea.


Anyone in a competitive market with a superior product offering and
lower costs would not be laughed at by any serious investor.


Right. Unfortunately you're offering neither.


After pointing out you have confused "market" with population.


No I have not you have with your remarks above.


Umm, yes, you did. You assumed a market penetration of 33% into a
population of 6.8 billion. Unless you're somehow saying the population of
the planet is NOT 6.8 billion but is substantially higher.

Again, show me a single vendor that has achieved market penetration of 33%
of a 6.8 billion person market.

You don't understand
what I'm saying and don't know enough to know you don't know. haha -
and blame me. That is the very quintessence of idiocy.


Umm. When you keep repeating your mistakes, I'd be careful who is calling
who an idiot.

You continue making observations founded upon illogical argument.
This one is listed under 'false choice'


No, I continue to make observations based on facts. You keep dreaming up
pie in the sky schemes. If your ideas are so great, prove it. Go line up
the investors. If your ideas are so great, you should have investors
beating down your doors. The fact that you apparently don't I think says
more about your ideas than anything I can say here.

Trust me Mr. Mook, I would LOVE to be proven wrong. 100 to 1 says that you
can't make a profit off this idea within the next 10 years. Hell 100:1 you
can't get serious money from an investor in the next 10 years, let alone
build any hardware.


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Greg Moore
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