On Jan 31, 8:33*pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 31, 10:42 am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
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it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when
nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount)
is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based
upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed
it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still
alive!

Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would
drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of
Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of
the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely
close
to human overpopulation.

So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not
the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by
Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

It's always a balance, Double-A.
There are always trade-offs, you know that.

It's easy to blame someone else for your lot, but what are you leaving out?
Perhaps it's the fact that, unless Earthbound humans figure out for
themselves a way to control their population, a fast-paced improvement in
our medical science would be almost immediately disastrous.
Not in the least bit, because human births could become logically and
rationally managed via intelligent design, as well as terrestrial
resources salvaged and simply way better utilized, plus we still have
that moon(Selene) just sitting there and causing us nothing but
trouble, so we might as well pillage and plunder our moon for all
she's worth, and otherwise manage a little shade for Earth by
relocating its orbit, as interactively parked within Earth L1.


Ahh yes, but then there's the fact that seans could teach us ways to control
our population.
But just like many things people receive "on a silver platter", they won't
stick, they won't be effective.
There are some things we must do for ourselves.
That's not proper leadership by any measure, or much less by example.


The very fact that our medical technology has improved dramatically during
the 19th and 20th centuries has only added to the perplexing population
challenge, don't you agree?
One nasty and well placed (9+) earthquake, a volcanic eruption (like
greater Yellowstone blowing its lithosphere) or if need be WW3 would
wipe a good portion of the human genetic slate clean. Most likely a
combination of these plus a nasty asteroid encounter would terminate
90% of us (mostly the rich and powerful would survive), and it would
be quite easy for seans to orchestrate any or all of this.


And you seem to be forgetting one more thing: *I am human -- rescued by the
seans during the second world war -- and I look the same as I did in 1944..
The seans can show us methods to increase our life span that would stagger
you in their simplicity!
Now what would happen if they gave us those little gems of information *b e
f o r e *we meet our population control challenge?

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

Some humans should be made as immortal as possible, while others
should wither and die prematurely, and yet others could become
expendables like seans that trek off into interstellar or possibly
intergalactic space without a suitable 3D map or picture like clue as
to what they could run into.

btw; there are constructive ways to deal with a much larger
population, starting with sharing of the best old and new expertise
and its technology, and otherwise going vertical (up as well as
down). Obviously seans as nearly immortals intend to hold out until
there's only a handful of remaining humans.

~ BG