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Old November 29th 09, 10:00 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,alt.sci.physics
Mike Dworetsky
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Default Britain's Drowned World - a Time Team special on climate change

Robert Higgins wrote:
On Nov 29, 1:18 pm, "Mike Dworetsky"
wrote:
7 wrote:
Mike Dworetsky wrote:


http://www.channel4.com/programmes/t...ls/4od#2922370


It is a deep insult to politicians to be fed BS by holowarming
pseudo scientists with made up data to take public money and spend
it on fabricating dangerous policies that have no basis in fact.


The landscapes that holowarming pseudo scientists are shaping
based on creating and managing public perceptions are dangerous
to public safety.


Where objective science for dams, flood defenses, and river
management is replaced by pseudo science policies like carbon
trading it does nothing for the public and the constituents of
politicians that are going to get killed to satisfy the lust for
power and attention by holowarmers and their pseudo science.


So are you claiming that archaeologists are wrong to say that the
area now under the North Sea and English Channel was dry land
10,000 years ago? Because that's what the program is about, and the
evidence is very clear on the change of sea levels between 8,000 BC
and today, and the nature of that land and its occupants.


The fact that you seem to have gone off on a tangent indicates that
you didn't even check to see what the program was about before
spouting off.


Are you claiming holowarmers are using real data?
Now there is an inconvenient truth for you!


Your views are not stated clearly except, apparently, that you think
there is an EvilConspiracy(tm) out there and you are a Caped
Crusader fighting against it. Presumably, you think that the world
is due for an Ice Age


Such was the view of "settled science" in the 1970's. Ask Al Gore.


An Ice Age may eventually occur but is likely to be thousands of years away.
The orbital elements of the Earth and the inclination of the axis are
thought to be involved and these things change slowly.


and
so we better keep pumping out the CO2 and CH4 to prevent it.


The earth can experience significant cooling without an ice age. What
about those pesky volcanoes that keep erutping. What was the climatic
effect of Mt. Pinatubo?


Important but the effect of major eruptions is temporary.


You had a
knee-jerk reaction to a thread *title*, without even checking that
the link is to a TV archaeology program about sea levels and land
use c. 10,000 years ago in the Neolithic. It had nothing whatsoever
to do with current events and "Global Warming".

Oh, and yes, they are using real data. Do you have better data that
you gathered yourself, and can you convince the scientific community
that your data are correct by publishing them in peer-reviewed
literature?


Why isn't the Hadley CRU data available to everyone? The problem isn't
the quality of the data, but the interpretation of the data.
Apparently, the computer code for the climate models is so poorly
documented that it is difficult to assess the validity of the output.


You'll have to take that up with them.


Stealing
e-mails is not the same thing.


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