On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:35:41 -0400, "lou feeders"
wrote:

Uh, not if you base your belief on what The Bible says.

Well, there is no hope for those who believe in the Bible. That
mish-mash of nonsense goes so far beyond rational thinking that analysis
is useless. I'll accept the possibility of some sort of supernatural
deity, but the idea that it's the one found in the Bible is too absurd
to consider.


Where is the world you come up with this beats the heck out of me. There
are plenty of rational people who believe in God- scientists, engineers,
doctors, etc.

I disagree. These people may be able to compartmentalize their minds so
as to operate rationally in some areas, but as I noted, the belief in
gods is irrational pretty much by definition.


Anybody who doesn't believe in a god is operating on far more
intellectually stable ground than anybody who does.

And can you prove this? I can certainly prove the converse.

The fact that you even believe such an assertion (or its converse) is
provable demonstrates that you don't fully understand logic.


It's not a matter of belief. The power of prayer- at least in medical
matters- has been scientifically demonstrated to be non-existent.

No, no, no. Do the research. There are doctors saying and documenting the
opposite.

Not a chance. The only studies that show any value of prayer are where
the person being prayed for knows it. And that can't be separated from
the placebo effect, which is demonstrably powerful.
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