In article ,
"Bill Shutterbug" wrote:

The biggest mistake you folks keep making is dragging out your frustrations
in a public forum. You not only help to incriminate yourselves, but lose
respect for both you and your arguments. This debate should have been
carried out either in private emails, the telephone or even in person and
not here.

"astropapers" wrote in message
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SNIP

And preferably not further replicated in its entirety with top-posted
boilerplate.

--
Odysseus