On Jun 20, 6:16*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 27, 4:47*am, BradGuth wrote:
Red giant stars are many, and yet still a little hard to come by, as
only a few public images of whatever is within 1000 light years seem
to exist that fit within the color saturated eye-candy profiles that
we’ve been taught to accept. *However, the visible spectrum is
extremely limited as to what is otherwise technically accessible from
just above and below our genetically limited and thus inferior visual
spectrum. (seems entirely odd that our human evolution was so careless
in having discarded so much visual capability, in that other creatures
seem to have a far wider visual spectrum capability that includes some
UV and IR)
“Red GiantStarFound to Have Massive Tail”
*http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Red_G...Have_Massive_T...
*Mira A of several hundred solar radii (UV colorized as bluish): “A
dyingstarsituated 400 light years away from us exhibits an unusual
and massive tail of heated gas that spreads for more than 13 light
years.”
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira
*http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/galex/20070815/a.html
Sirius B could have been much like an image of Mira A, except a whole
lot larger (1000 solar radii), as viewed in visible and near IR
*http://xmm.esac.esa.int/external/xmm...osium/173770_m...
Mira A and lots more composite observationology from FAS
*http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect20/A6.html
There are many possibilities, as for how Sirius B used to function as
a truly massive (9 solarmass)star, thereby extremely hot and fast
burning prior to becoming a red supergiant, creating an impressive
planetary nebula phase before ending as the little white dwarf. *For
all we know Sirius B was even a variable kind of red giant and then
perhaps a slow nova flashover phase prior to finishing off as the
white dwarf.
These following examples are probably similar or perhaps representing
a slightly smaller version of what the Siriusstar/solar system looked
like once Sirius B had started turning itself from an impressive red
supergiant into a white dwarf of perhaps 1/8th its originalmass,
taking roughly 64~96,000 years for this explosivemassshedding phase
to happen. *A few tens of billions of years later is when such a white
dwarf eventually becomes a black dwarf, kind of black diamond spentstar, in that our universe may or may not be quite old enough to
display such examples.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_nebula
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helix_Nebula
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_Eye_Nebula
*http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap031207.html
*http://www.uv.es/jrtorres/index6.html
Betelgeuse has been a massive red giant at 20+ fold themassof our
sun, and likely worth nearly 3 fold themassof the original Sirius B,
and currently expanded to 1000 solar radii, and it'll be truly
impressive nova whenever it transforms into a white dwarf nearly the
size of Jupiter.
The soon to be renewed and improved Hubble should accomplish the
improved spectrum and resolution of most everything, along with other
existing and soon to be deployed telescopes should give us even better
composite examples of what Sirius B used to look like. *This may give
some of us a better interpretation as to what transpired right next
door to us, as well as having unavoidably contributed to some of what
our solar system has to offer.
We seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius star
cluster, even though Sirius has been a relatively newish and extremely
vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from another
galaxy), and especially terrestrial illuminating of the first 200~250
million years worth.
It took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at least 120,000 solar
masses in order to produce such a 12+ mass star system, leaving 99.99%
of that molecular mass blown away and to fend for itself, at a place
and time when our existing solar system wasn't any too far away.
Others might go so far as to suggest a molecular cloud mass of 1.2
million, and others yet would prefer that this terrific cloud had
emerged from a smaller galaxy that encountered our Milky Way.
There's no way that our passive little solar system wasn't somehow
directly affected by and otherwise having become somewhat tidal radius
interrelated with such a nearby mass, at least associated with the
mutual barycenter that's primarily dominated by the Sirius star/solar
system.
Lo and behold, it seems the mergers of galactic proportions isn’t
nearly as uncommon as some naysayers might care to think.
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en
According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy), our Milky Way is made
up of at least two galactic units, with more on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us. *Seems hardly fair considering that
everything was supposedly created via one singular big bang, not to
mention that hundreds to thousands of galaxies seem headed into the
Great Attractor (including us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html
Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of FAS) depicting “colliding galaxies”, soon
to be ESA enhanced and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive
orbital observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and
improved Hubble plus our next generation of orbital observatories
should further document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as
massive as ours and Andromeda that are entirely original without their
having gown via mergers.
Where's the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us whatever they
seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely. *Surely these
brown-nosed clowns, faith-based bigots and closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup that are enforcing their mainstream status quo (much
like my personal Jewish shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
speaking on behalf of FAS.
For as little as another two cents, what do we get?
Perhaps all we need in addition to the spendy and performance limited
CoRoT is TRACEe3 (1000 fold better resolution) at less than a third
the cost, or perhaps three TRACEe3 observatories for roughly the same
cost as one CoRoT.
The original TRACE of only 250 kg (still functioning) was a fast-track
developed satellite as a seriously dirt cheap solar observatory,
deployed by the little and costly Pegasus XL, so thereby the R&D for
accomplishing a thousand fold optical/imaging improvement by the same
team should be as equally quick and dirt cheap, although heavier and
too large of package for another spendy launch via Pegasus XL.
TRACEe3 at perhaps a mass of as little as 500 kg1000 kg should have
no problems whatsoever looking directly at the Sirius star/solar
system. With its mirror optics, greatly extended focal length and
newer CCD imager could extend its observing spectrum well into far/
extreme UVc, although the telephoto optics already utilized by the
existing TRACE along with those narrow bandpass filters would still be
more than sufficient for UVa through IR imaging.
Ultra flat black interior coatings via nano carbon tubes should also
improve the imaging results of TRACEe3 and most any other optics, and
we do need a replacement for the existing TRACE anyway because its
maneuvering fuel is running low, as well as any one of its essential
gyros could fail at most any time. A decade worth of CCD improvements
and better optics as well as faster rad-hard processors that are more
energy efficient is only going to make this upgrade easier.
http://trace.lmsal.com/
http://directory.eoportal.org/presen...129/10301.html
Possibly an upgraded Shtil Launch Vehicle (in surplus inventory along
with a pair of small surplus SRBs) could deploy a TRACEe3 payload for
as little as $1000/kg.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/...ssia/shtil.htm
Cost per kg from Earth to Low earth orbit (unmanned)
http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?t...ort_estimation
How much is the all-inclusive (meaning birth to grave) CoRoT actually
costing us? Can it even look at Sirius without over-saturating its
observing instrument?
http://www.corot.de/Download/Corot_s...it_English.pdf
It must have been terribly spendy (including its launch via the Soyuz
launch vehicle), because nowhere has any accounting of their satellite
observatory R&D plus its mission cost been mentioned. If it can’t
even look at the stellar vibrance and seismic or vibrating activity of
Sirius, then what good is it?
I found one old blog suggesting the 640 kg CoRoT investment was up to
170 million euros ($225M). That doesn’t seem all that cheap for just
another orbiting telescope, and probably that reported amount didn’t
even include its honest share of the spendy four stage launch or the
annual/decade budget for gathering and publishing its data. A TRACEe3
could be accomplished in less than a forth the time, and for as little
as one cent per human global population, as well as deployed and
operated for a decade on perhaps less than another one cent per human
population. TRACEe3 for two cents seems like a pretty darn good deal,
especially when we could see the extremely vibrant photosphere of
Sirius A and possibly even a few actual pixels worth of Sirius B.
Speaking of accomplishing dirt cheap, quick and downright nifty
missions that could have been and should have been. It seems we
already own the shuttle bay SAR imaging equipment, that with minor
upgrades and getting that already spendy sucker deployed around Venus
could yield 0.75 meter resolution (100 fold better than the original
Magellan mission, plus another two fold improved dynamic range), or
perhaps as good as 0.15 meter if doing our moon from 50 km.
Lord of our GAO forbid we should merely scrap everything that’s bought
and paid for with our hard earned loot, instead of reutilizing,
because we sure as hell wouldn’t want the general public that’s paying
for everything and in debt to the tune of trillions to ever get their
hard earned moneys worth, much less discover whatever’s happening via
intelligent other life that’s nicely existing/coexisting on Venus.
What would our President BHO and his crack team of mostly young
advisers do?
~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”