On Apr 24, 8:35*am, Robert Collins wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 02:58:44PM -0700, BradGuth wrote:

[Apollo]

Truth be told, we obviously can't seem to deal with Eden/Earth, much
less afford to take on Mars, and we certainly can't put any physical
claims or extract benefits from our highly unusual Selene/moon, which
makes this another highly bogus topic.

I'll say. *My analysis of the situation suggests that we're all
looking at the wrong planets. *A couple of years ago I was convinced
that Jupiter and Saturn (and their moons) offered the best place to
situate human habitation. *Fuel and water is plentiful, and the
Earth/Moon system close enough for support operations but far enough
away to offer a degree of socio-political freedom for resident/colonists.

Now we know that Saturn/Jupiter exploration and development is less
favorable as an end in itself than a way to make Pluto-Charon
operations more effective. *Ten years ago we should have been
launching nuke-plants, tooling, and indispensable materials to low-
energy warehouse orbits around the Pluto-Charon system, via gravity
assist by intervening solar bodies. *Existing proven launch vehicles
existed in 2000 to bootstrap the whole affair, with improving rocket
technology supporting the later manned missions.

But nooooooo! *We had to have a recession instead.



And the great mutual ruse/sting of their mutually perpetrated cold-war
century continues, as though a white Zionist god and all of his
kingdom were on the same side of the USSR/USA coinage, the other side
depicting an unmentionable private body part at full erection.

We’re seeing such bogus topics posted that even a failing 5th grader
can easily interpret as to what a total crock of mainstream infowar
tactics is going on. *Too bad that BHO is going to have little
budgetary option but to cut our NASA budget sown to the bone
(eliminating most everything except the most pressing terrestrial
related matters), thanks mostly to their corrupt politics and their
SEC approved Ponzi Madoff and Big Mother Ponzi AIG, because it’s all
situated in the nearest toilet.

Just checked GM stock, and lo and behold it's almost worth as much a
toilet paper, along with a number of other public bailout investments
going onto the nearest toilet. *That's OK, because what's another
million of middle and upper class unemployed, plus at least another
half million of preexisting UAW retirements and seeing everyone’s
medical benefits trashed, all because of our corrupt and greedy UAW
and faith-based corrupted government agencies of loot and benefit
hording era. *Chances of UAW and GM survival are looking grim, as
though now they got next to nothing outside of whatever chapter 7
manages to liquidate. *Way to go warlord republicans and faith-based
puppet masters.

Besides chapter 11s, how many chapter 7s per business day are we
averaging?

Too many to count accurately.

The tanking economy's got it's hooks in your brain, Brad. *Focus.

Robert Collins

I agree, far too many brain hooks.

My focus is upon Venus, and there's even good observationology reason
and cause for this. Secondly, there's much we can do with our Selene/
moon and its L1. Thirdly, we can eventually relocate our Selene/moon
out to Earth L1, because that'll cool us off.

~ BG