Re: FIRE THE MANAGERS

[DSCOTT]

(Jon Berndt) wrote in
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>"DSCOTT" wrote:
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>> ... I just hope there are not selected for diverisity
>> but for there intellagence and helpfulness to the workers.
>> There should be no dam quotas or politically correctness
>> criterian. Cone on folks we should have had men on Mars by
>> now.
>>
>> David A. Scott
>> A former employee at NASA Dryden on Edwards Air Force Base
>
>The word is "intelligence". Get some.
>
>
>

Hey you forget to bitch about "there" that was wrong too.
Looks like you lack some too.

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[Brian Gaff]

I see the spelling pedants are about again... Anyway, while I have sympathy
with how you feel, I'm not one to suggest that just because you had daft
managers, or perceived you did, that therefore, all managers are the same.
Must not throw babies out with bathwater, and if you get new people in, you
will end up with unknown quantities and people who do not know what they are
doing. Look at what happened with the tank manufacturer and getting rid of
people?

Brian

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[Terrell Miller]

"DSCOTT" > wrote in message
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> Like I said from DAY ONE management was one of the
> major causes of the shuttle failure.

and you're still full of ****

> All the top MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE FIRED.

umm, you do realize that the new shuttle program director is doing precisely
that? And that firing all the managers will accomplish precisely nothing
other than consolidate the new boss's power base?

> I don't care if the managers don't wear
> ties and I just hope there are not selected for diverisity
> but for there intellagence and helpfulness to the workers.

ties and grammar are optional, eh?

> David A. Scott
> A former employee at NASA Dryden
> on Edwards Air Force Base

So what you're saying is that the government employs poorly-educated
janitors too. Thanks for the tip.

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[DSCOTT]

(Terrell Miller) wrote in
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>"DSCOTT" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Like I said from DAY ONE management was one of the
>> major causes of the shuttle failure.
>
>and you're still full of ****
>

Maybe when you wrote this but I just returned from
the crapper and dumped a big load so no I am not full
of **** at the time of this response.

>> All the top MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE FIRED.
>
>umm, you do realize that the new shuttle program director is doing
>precisely that? And that firing all the managers will accomplish
>precisely nothing other than consolidate the new boss's power base?
>
>> I don't care if the managers don't wear
>> ties and I just hope there are not selected for diverisity
>> but for there intellagence and helpfulness to the workers.
>
>ties and grammar are optional, eh?
>

Yes getting the job done safely is a more impoertant
criteria. Its been my observation that the cleaner the tie
the less knowledgeable the person wearing it. Ties are
for clowns and those who pretend to know something.
Also a good secretary can clean up grammer. When I worked
for Uncle there were several of them. Of course know a days
they may not understand english enough to fix the grammer
but in the ole days english was taught in school and secretaries
had a good grasp of it so us engineers didn't need to sweat
it and could concenstrat on doing real engineering. Which I
suspect is not getting done so much any more. One of the
things I noticed as a civilan government worker was that the
private industry more concerned about money and future work
would not do a good job the first time so they could squeeze
more money out the second and third times. Know that there
are less government engineers less is really being done for
a cost of much more. I got tired seeing companies take credit
for the work that was really done by government engineers.

>> David A. Scott
>> A former employee at NASA Dryden
>> on Edwards Air Force Base
>
>So what you're saying is that the government employs poorly-educated
>janitors too. Thanks for the tip.
>

No but you might be able to get a job as a janitor assuming
you passed high school.



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[ElleninLosAngeles]

This is a very informative article. The part most interesting to me
was:
"The board has learned from private interviews, for example, that
requests for imagery of the wing during the flight came from more than
just a few isolated engineers in Houston, contrary to the impression
conveyed by the e-mails NASA had disclosed so far. At least three
separate requests were made, and one came with formal backing on Jan.
20 from a "problem resolution team" of more than 30 experts in every
aspect of flight operations.

The team was co-chaired by a contracting official and by Rodney Rocha,
the shuttle's chief structural engineer. Although the team's request
should have been presented to the mission management team, board
members said, Rocha brought it to his boss, Paul Shack, the head of
the shuttle integration office, who in turn discussed the imagery idea
with Patricia Petete, a deputy to Linda Ham.

Petete and Shack decided to defer the request until more engineering
analysis was done by NASA contractors — using what the board would
later determine was a highly flawed software program. When Rocha heard
about their decision, he angrily confronted Shack and told him he was
ignoring an obvious risk, sources said. Shack responded by calling him
an alarmist."

So there were 3 requests for images, one from a problem resolution
team. At least more people than previously disclosed realized that
getting more data on the foam impact was greatly needed. Otherwise,
they were just guessing about how much damage had been done and
whether they were in an emergency situation or not.