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cndc
July 7th 03, 09:59 AM
Hi,

I was reading "Background of the HAARP Project" as can be found on
this web page:

http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/haarp.htm

specifically:

http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/techdocs/HAARP02.pdf

and there is striking statement near the end of the piece which
involves the space shuttle:

Shuttle flights are now able to generate auroras with an
electron beam. On November 10, 1991, and [sic] aurora borealis
appeared in the Texas sky for thte first time ever recorded, and
it was seen by people as far away as Ohio and Utah, Nebraska and
Missouri. The sky contained "Christmas colors" and various
scientists were quick to blame it on solar activity. However,
when pressed most would admit that the ionosphere must have been
weakened at the time, so that the electrically charged particle
hitting the earth's atmosphere created the highly visible light
called airglow.

Has anyone ever heard about the shuttle carrying an electron
beam-generating device? Did anyone witness the aurora borealis over
Texas as mentioned in this article?

Thank you,
Elizabeth

Alan Erskine
July 7th 03, 10:18 AM
Do a google search for HAARP on this group; it'll save the rest of us going
over this yet again as we did in February and March.
--
Alan Erskine
alanerskine(at)optusnet.com.au
John Howard - Australia's GW Bush

"cndc" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I was reading "Background of the HAARP Project" as can be found on
> this web page:
>
> http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/haarp.htm
>
> specifically:
>
> http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/techdocs/HAARP02.pdf
>
> and there is striking statement near the end of the piece which
> involves the space shuttle:
>
> Shuttle flights are now able to generate auroras with an
> electron beam. On November 10, 1991, and [sic] aurora borealis
> appeared in the Texas sky for thte first time ever recorded, and
> it was seen by people as far away as Ohio and Utah, Nebraska and
> Missouri. The sky contained "Christmas colors" and various
> scientists were quick to blame it on solar activity. However,
> when pressed most would admit that the ionosphere must have been
> weakened at the time, so that the electrically charged particle
> hitting the earth's atmosphere created the highly visible light
> called airglow.
>
> Has anyone ever heard about the shuttle carrying an electron
> beam-generating device? Did anyone witness the aurora borealis over
> Texas as mentioned in this article?
>
> Thank you,
> Elizabeth

OM
July 7th 03, 12:43 PM
On 07 Jul 2003 03:59:40 -0500, cndc
> wrote:

>Has anyone ever heard about the shuttle carrying an electron
>beam-generating device? Did anyone witness the aurora borealis over
>Texas as mentioned in this article?

....Only in your Jesus-infected gut, Lizzie.

(If this bimbo had read the FAQ, she'd know this was a total crock...)


OM

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Herb Schaltegger
July 7th 03, 12:55 PM
In article >,
cndc > wrote:

>
> Has anyone ever heard about the shuttle carrying an electron
> beam-generating device? Did anyone witness the aurora borealis over
> Texas as mentioned in this article?
>
> Thank you,
> Elizabeth

Yes, the orbiters have carried such devices in the past as part of
scientific experiments; can't remember which flights off-hand as I am
posting over breakfast. On the other hand, all this HAARP nonsense is
just that: nonsense. Read the FAQs. Alternatively, do some real,
semi-independent research on HAARP from some sources more reliable than
the website you cited:
<http://www.fas.org>
for example, ought to have some decent basic info. Google this group
for even more (emotionally charged) information about the arguments
concerning this. And finally, try not to believe everything you read on
the web, especially conspiratorial horsecrap.

--
Herb Schaltegger, Esq.
Chief Counsel, Human O-Ring Society
"I was promised flying cars! Where are the flying cars?!"
~ Avery Brooks

cndc
July 7th 03, 06:44 PM
Herb writes:

> Yes, the orbiters have carried such devices in the past as part of
> scientific experiments; can't remember which flights off-hand as I
> am posting over breakfast. On the other hand, all this HAARP
> nonsense is just that: nonsense. Read the FAQs. Alternatively, do
> some real, semi-independent research on HAARP from some sources more
> reliable than the website you cited:
>
> <http://www.fas.org>
>
> for example, ought to have some decent basic info. Google this
> group for even more (emotionally charged) information about the
> arguments concerning this. And finally, try not to believe
> everything you read on the web, especially conspiratorial horsecrap.

The particular site I cited as well as the paper appear fairly
credible. In fact, I found the site looking for Mary's paper she cited
in an earlier article (NASA's webserver wasn't responding when I
looked).

The paper cited was prepared by Rosalie Bertell, Ph.D., GNSH who
seems well educated:

http://www.ccnr.org/bertell_bio.html

and well respected in the field. Mary may know of her.

In the paper, she briefly goes over historical projects that
logically lead to the development of the HAARP project:

Project Argus
Project Starfish
SPS: Solar Power Satellite Project
Saturn V Rocket (1975)
SPS Military Implications
Orbit Maneuvering System
Innovative Shuttle Experiments
Mighty Oaks (1986)
Desert Storm (1991)
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, HAARP
Poker Flat Rocket Launch

In doing so, Dr. Bertell claims that some kind of EMP weapon was
used in the Desert Storm conflict:

According to Defense News, April 13-19, 1992, the US
deployed an electromagnetic pulse weapon (EMP) in Desert
Storm, designed to mimic the flash of electricity from a
nuclear bomb. The Sandia National Laboratory had built
23,000 square meter laboratory on the Kirkland Air Force
Base, 1989, to house the Hermes II electron beam generator
capable of producing 20 Trillion Watt pulses lasting 20
billionths to 25 billionths of a second. This X-ray
simulator is called a Particle Beam Fusion Accelerator. A
stream of electrons hitting metal plate can produce a
pulsed X-ray or gamma ray. Hemes II had producetd electron
beams since 1974. These devices were apparently tested
during the Gulf War, although detailed information on them
is sparse.

As you may or may not be aware, there was a rash of unexplained birth
defects in Iraq following the Gulf War. Many, including myself, have
speculated that these birth defects were caused by the use of depleted
uranium munitions but a device such as that described above may in
fact be responsible.

Anyway, I found the paper to credible and a worthy read simply for
the background of experiments and this helps explain some of the
military shuttle missions. Plus, she speaks of the Van Allen belt and
how various nuclear experiments caused flux in the belt and how the
discovery of this caused a sensation in the military.

Elizabeth

OM
July 7th 03, 08:51 PM
On 07 Jul 2003 12:44:59 -0500, cndc
> wrote:

> Anyway, I found the paper to credible and a worthy read simply for
>the background of experiments and this helps explain some of the
>military shuttle missions.

....You? Or the faux Jesus infesting your intestines, Lizzie?


OM

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"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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