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Ice Cream too?
August 13th 09, 07:48 PM
On Aug 13, 2:45*pm, "Ice Cream too?" >
wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_re_us/us_cheney_book
>
> Even Cheney has to admit that the IRAQ 'war' was a farce, and based on
> manufactured 'evidence' of WMDs and the purported 'friendship' of
> Saddam and Osama bin Laden.
>
> yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss.... $10 billions a month WASTED on 'THE
> IRAQ initiative'..and FOR WHAT, exactly? *To clean up the **** that
> former ghoulish president HGW Bush left behind in DESERT STORM!
>
> CHENEY, the idiot fool infidel he surely is, should be ashamed of
> himself and shot at sunrise as the traitor to American, and the world,
> he most verily IS.


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David E. Powell
August 13th 09, 10:30 PM
I will say that when Bush moved Rumsfeld out and went with McCain'
surge is when Iraq started to stabilize, and it has been much more
quiet since than it was from 2003-07. Rumsfeld's strategy was to use
less numbers but high mobility. McCain's was larger numbers to defend
the locals until they could get organized.

A strategy Obama is borrowing some elements from in his Afghanistan
policy now.

Guy Namechanger
August 13th 09, 10:50 PM
"David E. Powell" > wrote in message
...
>I will say that when Bush moved Rumsfeld out and went with McCain'
> surge is when Iraq started to stabilize, and it has been much more
> quiet since than it was from 2003-07. Rumsfeld's strategy was to use
> less numbers but high mobility. McCain's was larger numbers to defend
> the locals until they could get organized.
>
> A strategy Obama is borrowing some elements from in his Afghanistan
> policy now.
>
Rummy was without doubt the worst SecDef in history.

Lord Gow333, hired thug of the insurance industry!
August 14th 09, 04:47 AM
"Guy Namechanger" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David E. Powell" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I will say that when Bush moved Rumsfeld out and went with McCain'
>> surge is when Iraq started to stabilize, and it has been much more
>> quiet since than it was from 2003-07. Rumsfeld's strategy was to use
>> less numbers but high mobility. McCain's was larger numbers to defend
>> the locals until they could get organized.
>>
>> A strategy Obama is borrowing some elements from in his Afghanistan
>> policy now.
>>
> Rummy was without doubt the worst SecDef in history.

Rummy's strategy worked just fine for taking territory. The problem came
with HOLDING territory. In a traditional war where once the enemy army was
defeated the fighting would stop it would have worked fine. After all, it
took the military, what?, about twelve hours to storm Bagdad? The trouble
began after the "conquering" with several military and, more importantly,
diplomatic blunders relating to the Iraqi citizens.

Was he wrong on the follow-up to the asskicking? Yeah, he was, but he also
oversaw the asskicking in the first place. Worst ever? Stop being so
hysterical.

LG
--
"Private media does not get up in the morning and say what can we do to
promote the values and ideas that the free Western nations believe in?" -
Donald Rumsfeld

Birther-Stopper
August 14th 09, 06:10 PM
Bush finally got scared that fellow war criminal Cheney'd get 'em both
sent to prison.